Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/17/2006 09:40 am
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How come i cant see me script... isnt there more to then just those few lines?
where is it?
i cant get any leads because i changed hosting and they said the code sends it to the old server. when i submit it says theres a pliblem with the server
how do i change this code?
please help!!!
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Posted By: SportsGuy (Staff)
Posted On: 02/17/2006 09:59 am
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Well, it's a flash website, so the code resides in the flash files, so viewing the source gets ya less than what you'd otherwise like. Might give you some leads as to which files to look for, though.
And when you do get it sorted, please turn off the voice-over than chats at me when the site loads - nothing makes me leave a site faster - plus you have no way to know if folks have their volum eon, or maybe cranked up while enjoying soem music - the voice-over tends to be a bit scary at that point...
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/17/2006 10:06 am
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should i be able to view it with Macromedia flash mx?
and to turn voice off would have to be done with the same?
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Posted By: SportsGuy (Staff)
Posted On: 02/17/2006 10:43 am
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Not sure about flash programming myself, so hopefully someone can chime in on that.
You'd need the files to view the code - though the application should open them.
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/17/2006 10:47 am
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i have the files but dont know where the code is, it opens funny.
almost like view only or something
thanks for the help sports guy
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Posted By: SportsGuy (Staff)
Posted On: 02/17/2006 10:52 am
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Sorry I couldn't offer more help bel...a flash designer I am not...
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Posted By: philh ()
Posted On: 02/17/2006 11:06 am
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Hi belmson
You cannot modify a .swf file. You need to have the .fla file that created the Flash movie. All the work goes into the .fla file and this is then exported as a .swf movie.
You will need Macromedia Flash software to modify the the .fla if you have it. If you haven't got or can't get the .fla file from whoever did the work then, I'm afraid, you are stuck.
HTH
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/20/2006 02:05 pm
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my BIG problem just got BIGGER
Ok now these guys (fluent.ws) are saying that we do not provide the .fla file.
so this is what has happened so far.
i wanted to add some tracking stuff to my site so i told fluent i needed access to the server and i wanted the ftp and all that stuff because a friend of mine was going to make changes and all that.....i was unaware of .swf and .fla at the time
this is the e mail of what they said:
We do not support client FTP access. Changes either have to be made through our company, or you would make changes, and host your site elsewhere.
We recommend godaddy.com for hosting.
Thanks
so i go to godaddy.com and start hosting my site there that day.
next i can no longer get leads from my site because fluent has their info in the script
i tell fluent i need the .fla file. they give the run around for a few days then tell me no.
so now thanks to them i can not make the changes i wanted to make in the first place and im loseing money from no leads
they run a good scam. they tell me what i need to do to make more money off me.
is there anything i can do?
anybody have any advice?
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Posted By: SportsGuy (Staff)
Posted On: 02/21/2006 06:35 am
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be careful with Godaddy - I use them and they are not helpful - and I pay for a virtual dedicated server, which apparently gets me a higher level of support - whatever - BS is what it is.
I've learned a lot jumping through the hoops and wearing the different hats, but if you use them, do so with open eyes.
I will say, though, that I have not had any problems with loading anything to my sites over the years - whether hosted or on my VDS. I do prefer the access the VDS allows, though, rather than FTP uploading. Just a preference, nothing more.
Might want to check with a lawyer on that file issue - reread their fine print, too.
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Posted By: philh ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 07:07 am
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Did you get a price from fluent for the changes?
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 07:41 am
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i read the fine print a few time. i didnt see anything saying you will not receive this or that. but my brother did sign a paper that said the work was ok. see my brother did all this without consulting me. i like the site and everything but i think we could have got something similar with a template, without the voice and everything but something that would have the same effect.
philh, i asked for the price but thay havent got back to me. i dont know what their deal is. their probably mad cause they know they cant really charge me much. all i needed is some things to be cut and pasted there.
im going to stay on them to try to get the file. we didnt pay to barrow their site, we paid them to make us our site. after their done they should have no intrest in the site at all.
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 07:49 am
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one more thing i have seen this software to convert swf to fla.....how well do these things work?
and would you reccomend them?
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Posted By: philh ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 08:41 am
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What software is that?
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 09:14 am
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something like this one:
[link]
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Posted By: philh ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 09:42 am
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Hmm - Interesting - cheap to buy as well.
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 09:53 am
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yup $60, it seems like one of those things that just to easy. nothing is that easy there is a trial but it is limited, says:
Unlimited trial period. Several demo limitations: conversion into FLA disabled in Demo, only 3 first objects can be exported and saved.
so if i cant convert i dont know if it works. it says it gets original source code so it might work.
om going to try the trial. i will let you know what i think
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 10:44 am
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Ok so I uploaded my swf file and the decompiler breaks my page down into 11 different categories.
Shape – there were 63 of them in the page
Image -14
Morph- 18
Sound- 4
Video- I think it views the whole document as a video so there was nothing there
Font - 6
Text- 23
Button- 2
Frame -139
Sprite-138—don’t really know what these are
Scripts- 94—when I click on this one is does not work the whole program stops working
The trial only lets me export 3 things from each category, so I just did 3 images
The whole thing looks good to me. My only concern is the scripts thing. I’m going to try to contact them and ask why this is happening.
But the things is even if I get all the pieces of my site I still have to put them back together which is going to be a heck of thing to try for someone like me
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Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 10:49 am
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hmmm, scripts will be action scripts, tells the flash player thingy to follow certain rules when playing. Maybe this became corrupted when you converted it?
Sprites, I think that will be a movice clip thing (has it's own timeline) I'm guessing
I would be amazed if you manage to get a straight answer why the scripts crash if it is them, but best of luck anyway
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Posted By: philh ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 11:23 am
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>>a heck of thing to try for someone like me
Don't be afraid to have a go mate. Good Luck!
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 11:36 am
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im definitely going to try. The only thing is, can macromedia flash mx be used to make websites or is there a different program I need?
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Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 11:43 am
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it can I think, never attempted to make a website in flash mind (too difficult and not really SEO-able)
You may have to make all the parts (nav bar, header bit, content, blah-di-blah) and put them all together in dreamweaver or what not.
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 12:51 pm
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i know whatever i have to do its going to be hard
thanks for all the help so far everyone
A little good news though, i got my site back up and running, but besides that i have accomplished nothing. im going to get my site somehow
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/21/2006 12:57 pm
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oh i forgot i got those action scripts open, so the program is pretty good
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/23/2006 08:44 am
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Another Question,
So with fluent having my .fla file is it possible fo me to add to the little bit of script that is in the source. i want to put tracking stuff in.
does anybody know if this can be done?
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Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 02/23/2006 08:50 am
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you should be able to add to the scripts, but I have no idea if a tracking script exists in the world of flash...
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/23/2006 09:28 am
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So there has to be a special tracker for flash?
It cant just be the same kind a regular site would use, because it would track the same way right?
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/23/2006 03:12 pm
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I got the .fla file supposedly, but i think they have done something so i cant open it. when i try in mx it says unexpected file format. how can i open the file?
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Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 02/24/2006 01:20 am
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perhaps it has made in a more recent version of flash.
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/24/2006 07:34 am
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i downloaded to newest trial and its just telling me unexpected file format
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Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 02/24/2006 07:42 am
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maybe the flash file was created in Flash 8 (or whatever we;re upto) Flash MX was made in 2002/2003 I think, which might be why it won't open
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/24/2006 12:46 pm
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yup that was it dudibob... thanks for all the help
now i have to figure out how to use flash.
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Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 02/24/2006 02:06 pm
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there's quite a lot to learn about flash, and there's always more than you think lol
It's what I'm here for
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Posted By: belmson ()
Posted On: 02/24/2006 02:45 pm
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If anyone is having a similar problem I was told that there is two reasons for the error
Either the file was saved from a newer version of flash
Ex. You are using flash mx 6.0 and the file was created in 8.0
Or the file is corrupt. if this is the problem try to get another copy of the file ( a back up copy or have it sent to you again)
the first of which is more common
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Posted By: brandonsiq ()
Posted On: 05/08/2006 08:24 pm
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belmson,
After reading your posts about this company that did the work for you (your brother), I suspect that you signed an agreement that said all of the code was property of the website designer. This is normal. If you would like the code, you would have to pay extra for that. For example, you purchase ACT to use in your Mortgage firm, but you don't get the code to modify it without their consent. I hope that you find what your looking for, but remember that the company that designed your site put a great deal of effort it, for you to just undercut their work. If you would like the option to make changes on the site, ask for it. If they don't offer it, you may have to pay extra to get the code from them.
I hope that I don't come off rude, but as a designer/coder, I hate when people don't want to pay for work. As I am sure you expect to be paid when you close a loan.
I am glad that you received all the files and code for your site. I am also glad to see that you are willing to put in the time to learn how to improve your site.
-Brandon
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