JimWorld Forums: nasty weapons



Posted By: Curt ()
Posted On: 10/17/2006 07:19 pm

It's pretty scary to think that the U.S. Military has such weaponary as the following (as seen on the military channel):

  • Metal Storm Gun: is able to fire 1,000,000 rounds per minute—that's 1 million rounds! (see article).

  • They have a 747 jumbo jet fitted with a laser that can fly around to shoot down missles within seconds after targeting or fire on any other target from the air. They also have a laser fitted to an F22 fighter that can pretty much do the same. The Star Wars fighters are already here.

  • They have a robotic solder that is soon to be released in the middle east. It is controlled via remote from as far away as 0.5 mile or nearly a kilometer away. It can climb stairs and various terrain and even travel underwater. To clarify, the method of movement is the use of tank-like tracks instead of legs (just incase someone is thinking of C3PO type of robot).

  • They have developed a missle launching system that uses tiny 1 foot missles about the size of a small model rocket that can pierce through more than an inch of armour with the kinetic force alone at which time it then explodes with a double wammy.
IT was also said that there is the potential to set off an EMP bomb 300 miles above the earth's surface that can destroy or damage most of the electronics in Canada, USA, and Mexico. If that was done, it would take months or even years to get everything repaired or replaced and back up to speed. Is this world in trouble or what?

Makes yah wonder what they have that they are not telling us about.


Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 10/18/2006 12:48 am

sounds quite scary, but for that metal storm gun, does it even have a magazine that can last more than a second (2 million clip lol)?

the robotic solider sounds interesting, but would probably get detroyed easily due to slow reactions sad

and hey, Japan have recently released a robotic suit that makes you 2/3 times as strong!


Posted By: SportsGuy (Moderator)
Posted On: 10/18/2006 03:38 am

But it sure would be cool to have one of those storm guns mounted on one of my old Jeeps... wink

...might be able to keep the raccoons out of my freakin' garbage cans...


Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 10/18/2006 03:52 am

you'd also keep the garbage cans off the freakin' streets


Posted By: animated3d ()
Posted On: 10/18/2006 04:20 pm

are those proto types or do they really work and will be used?


Posted By: Curt ()
Posted On: 10/18/2006 10:15 pm

animated3d said:

are those proto types or do they really work and will be used?

The robotic solders actually do work. They are set to mass produce them in a short time to use in the middle east within Iraq. They say they would be useful in the city since they can get around very quietly.

dudibob said:

the robotic solider sounds interesting, but would probably get detroyed easily due to slow reactions

Actually it is capable of sneaking up on people and once that happens there's no escape. When used by a trained person, it becomes quite lethal especially as a sniper. The accuracy it has for long range is generally better than a normal solder and rivals professional snipers. It can also zoom way in to see people from afar and is especially capable in night time fighting using infrared imaging. It's not as toyish as you might think and not as slow as you might imagine. It can be fitted with gun mortars, rocket launchers, and a variety of machine guns.

As for the jets with lasers, they have successful working models of them too. The little missles are already being used.

dudibob said:

sounds quite scary, but for that metal storm gun, does it even have a magazine that can last more than a second (2 million clip lol)?

It doesn't use the traditional bullet loading systems. I'm sure they are able to reload the gun in a quick hurry. Several bullets (something like 6-10 bullets) are loaded at one time into each gun barrel and a bunch of barrels are loaded up with bullets. This is not the traditional gun.

Imagine a gun with 70 or more gun barrels loaded with bullets. The bullets are fired via electronic ignition all controlled with a computer. There are no moving parts except for the bullets. The first bullet in the barrel is sparked and off it goes with the next bullet being sparked a micro-second afterwards on down the line until the last bullet in that barrel is gone and all the barrels fire in sequence the same way. And the gun doesn't get jammed either when a bullet misfires as the bullet behind it simply pushes it out of the way.


Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 10/19/2006 04:05 am

wow, sounds awesome, the storm gun thing sounds like a scientific breakthrough in the arms thing. The next step is to have a portable version for troops I guess, or just attach it to a robotic solider!?


Posted By: philh ()
Posted On: 10/19/2006 04:16 am

Here's another one to think about [link]


Posted By: SportsGuy (Moderator)
Posted On: 10/19/2006 05:28 am

I saw a demo on the Discovery Channel of that Metal Storm gun about 2 months ago - I was speachless.

The concept was so simple.

The number of actual moving parts is reduced to almost none, and reliability is darn near 100% and it's lethal beyond convential means.

I recall when the "mini-guns" were mounted on Canada's newest frigates as the up-close defesive screen. Those things can churn out a wall of bullets that simply shred any incoming missle - provided they don't jam, run out, etc.

Replacing them with Metal Storm type weapons would negate both concerns as rounds are already developed that are explosive - so you could literally put up a wall of chaffe between the incoming missle and the frigate in a matter of milliseconds that would block the incoming round.

Given that the computer can compute, plot the trajectoy for and fire more rounds than needed in the time it would take even the fastest missle to travel about 2 miles, this kind of defensive weaponry is unrivalled.

Metal Storms bullets are basically mini-missles of their own - so you can vary their reach by how much powder you pack in them.

IIRC, the barrels used by the guns are not rifled either, so it means the barrels last longer and require less maintenance. The bullets actually, I think, have small stabalizers built in. (Might be getting this confused with something else, though...)

Back when I was a kid, I recall a sci-fi flick where "smart" bullets were used. You could fire the gun, then watch on monitors and direct the bullet to the target - scary concept. Perhaps it's already here?

I say HUZZAH for robots in action. Sure they cost a lot, but I'd much rather pay more taxes to offset lost robots than learn my buddy (who's about to be deployed to Afghanistan) was hurt or killed. IMO, technology exists to make life better for us all - so if a robot dies in combat, much better than a human - on either side.

Eventually, maybe we'll all just sit down and play a rousing game of RISK to see who wins wars - that's an idea...!


Posted By: excell (Moderator)
Posted On: 10/19/2006 06:20 am

boys! tsk...{wanders off stroking hamPster}


Posted By: mj1256 ()
Posted On: 10/19/2006 08:37 pm

if they set off the emp, will google still work

if it doesn't, wouldn't that be the end of the world


oh no


Posted By: dudibob ()
Posted On: 10/20/2006 01:11 am

lol, Googles bigger than an EMP even tho one would cripple them in an area

but no Google!?.... Armageddon!


Posted By: Curt ()
Posted On: 10/25/2006 05:52 pm

dudibob said:

wow, sounds awesome, the storm gun thing sounds like a scientific breakthrough in the arms thing. The next step is to have a portable version for troops I guess, or just attach it to a robotic solider!?

haha, they already have a hand-held version for soldiers in the testing as we speak. It might not pack quite as many bullets per minute (only perhaps 100,000 per minute as opposed to 1,000,000 per minute).

philh, that's frightening (that link).

SportsGuy said:

Those things can churn out a wall of bullets that simply shred any incoming missle - provided they don't jam, run out, etc.

That's the thing, the gun barrels as of yet don't seem to jam up. When a bullet mis-fires, the next bullet in line simply pushes the bullet out of the barrel and out of the way onto it's target.

Sadly, an EMP bomb definitely would kill our careers on the net for a number of months or even years. That's weapons tech for yah—not so awesome when you think of it that way. The net would be knocked out and that means that google would be knocked out too if people can't use the net.


Posted By: SportsGuy (Moderator)
Posted On: 10/26/2006 04:48 am

... sad But, but, but... I was referring to the barrels on the mini-gun style systems getting jammed... not these new Metal Storm ones...

I suck at being clear - maybe if I had a gun people would listen to me...anyone have Metal Storm's home phone number?

I'm done with fish...


Posted By: Curt ()
Posted On: 12/16/2006 10:17 pm

Here's another device to be used in warfare that will make solders more lethal: See the Weaponized Batwing.

Now solders can fly to their destination via their own jet-powered wings strapped to their backs.


Posted By: Curt ()
Posted On: 12/31/2006 08:11 am

Just had a 2+ hour personal presentation from an old friend (of whom I hadn't seen in about 13 years) about super secret high tech military air craft. At first it was hard to believe they had such technology, but the more I heard the more I understood.

Basically, in a nutshell, all the UFO's that people have been seeing in the past years since the 1947 Roswell reporting of UFO's are actually black ops skunk works aircraft w/one being able to fly at mach 18 (about 12,000 mph!) while other types are using extremely highly charged electrical fields as a form of propulsion through the air (anti-gravity fields). Yep anti-gravity. The U.S. black ops people love it when people mistakenly label these aircraft sightings as evidence of UFO's because it helps to hide the truth of their real operations and experiments being conducted.

And what about the alien "predator" and his stealth suit technology? Black ops has that technology already in use in experimental jet craft. There's so much crap that they are not telling us about.

Wouldn't it be scary to think that perhaps Hurricane Katrina was not just a random natural disaster, but the product of a mishap with weather control weapons testing and we believed it to be a natural disaster.


Posted By: mj1256 ()
Posted On: 12/31/2006 09:50 am

in the late 60's early 70,s my father worked for a aerospace company that was an off chute of a major helicopter manufacturer. Before he died he told me that he was involved in a top secret government project to control the weather. They were creating and steering hurricanes into vietnam and china. He told me that he had seen helicopters with no rotors and that made no noise.

Something happened, something went terribly wrong and they wanted him to lie and cover up something in the books, he was a cost control analyst. He wouldn't go along with it and was fired. He never really worked again. His carreer was destroyed. After that he started reading books about UFO's and took me to UFO seminars.

I believe that we do live in a type of matrix and the world is not as it seems.

who knows what the truth is, but as Curt said, wouldn't it be scary to ......


Posted By: Curt ()
Posted On: 03/03/2007 10:45 am

Have been hearing hints that confirm what my friend was telling me about those super secret aircraft. The discovery channel has made a few comments about technology that the military has right now. 1) A contrail was spotted and tracked via a commercial satellite. The speed of the aircraft was calculated at about 8,000 mph. 2) A person on the discovery channel said that the military has secret fighting aircraft that is 50 years beyond what we can imagine and says “think Star Wars.”

So here we have people in the commercial world creating aircraft and other technologies that we think is revolutionary when in fact they are already dinosaurs. What else could we benefit from if we knew what they were already building? Maybe an unlimited abundance of electricity? A solution to our power problems? And yet we are going to war over oil that we don't need because the secret world doesn't want to disclose its secrets.


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