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In the UK the Home secret guy says that it should so it will most likely be soon.

article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1615000/1615840.stm

anyone think this is a good idea?

I personally think its a good idea, But I don't think it goes far enough, I think it should be completly legalized.

I don't see the point of keeping it illegal and it would make more sense if it was legalized as people then could by it legitamatly.

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I think it should be legalised in the UK as it can then be taxed.

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In my opinion, no, it should not be legalised. Decriminalised maybe (and this is a different issue). Marijuana is a potent drug and a fair percentage of people do develop psychosis from using it - mainly paranoia but also auditory hallucinations. There has been a lot of studies regarding a permanent amotivational syndrome with prolonged use. Marijuana is also known as a "gateway" drug in medical circles because a lot of young people use it as a step to harder drugs like heroin and cocaine in the quest to get "higher". Limited prescription should be allowed for medical uses, but not over-the-counter sales like cigarettes.

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If people can drink alcohol and smoke tobacco (and in the USA, carry guns) then I think they should be allowed one additional poison.

Walking down the street will result in my breathing loads of micro-particulates which are even more dangerous than a spliff - but cars aren't banned, and I have no choice if I want to breathe the car polutants.

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What I definitely think is that the US government should keep their nose out of the states where the people have voted to allow its medical use.

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People who use Marijuana do it to get high period, and when that "high" becomes routine many of them search for harder drugs that provide more pleasurable highs for these druggies.

Another thing, I see all of these people on television talking about how marijuana should be legalized because of its many "medical benefits". But in reality the people who use marijuana for so-called "medicine" use it because they want to get HIGH, pure and simple.

In fact, if a medicine was invented that used the chemicals inside of marijuana in a way that didn't provide the "pleasure" of being "high", then all of these medical marijuana druggies would NEVER use such a medicine since these druggies just want to get stoned and I can't believe they try to suggest anything different.

BE HONEST WITH YOURSELVES! The first step to kicking your drug addiction is to ADMIT that you are a druggy in the first place. Don't make medical excuses, that will only prolong your immoral drug adiction.

Personally, I do not use any type of drugs ever nor do I drink, and it amazes me how pathetically low somebody's life must be if the only way they can find pleasure is to use drugs and drink like sailors.

There are millions of kids starving right now in the world and yet there are people suggesting what an "injustice" it is because we cannot openly smoke pot and get high in public.

Oh, what a rough life you have by not being allowed to get high in public. Just think how rough the kids in Afganistan have it by not having the right to eat regularly! Stop acting like a victim!

Frankly, I don't want my future children to have to see a bunch of society's outcasts getting high in front of them and smelling that awful reek of pot everywhere they go, nor do I want to smell it.

I don't want to have to smell that reek any more than I want to smell the reek of your unwashed, stinky socks.

For those that can't live without marijuana being legal, my advice is to get a life and use your brain for something to bring you pleasure in life, get a rewarding career or something. Do something positive for the world.

As for taxes, if you want it legalized for taxing purposes then why not legalize prostitution in every place too? These activities ALREADY go on in private just like people smoke pot in private.

Oh well, I guess pot isn't "as bad" as prostitution. Well, I have more respect for prostitutes than I have for druggies who have an uncontrollable need to get high every day.

My advice is to GET OFF DRUGS and lead a respectable life where you are able to get pleasure from a successful career, a loving family, and being a good active member of your community.

The "party scene" / "club scene" is just not glamourous, in fact, it is a place for society's rejects who just aren't able to "fit in" within the successful community of businesspeople and career people.

I urge you to get out of that scene and become respectable, then maybe you won't feel a need to get high every day and to legalize marijuana.

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"But in reality the people who use marijuana for so-called "medicine" use it because they want to get HIGH, pure and simple."

Oh what a pleasure it must be to be totally oblivious to the real world.

I suggest you spend some time researching what marijuana can do for AIDS and cancer patients before spouting off from the top of your high horse.

Morphine and other pain medications are far more addictive and potentially damaging than marijuana (which isn't even physically addictive). They too produce a "high", so the only reason anyone could possibly use them is to feed their horrible addictions, right? While you're at it, better get all the anti-depressants off the market, don't want any mood altering drugs available now do we...that would be immoral.

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"What I definitely think is that the US government should keep their nose out of the states where the people have voted to allow its medical use."

I agree, states are, and should be Independant on most issues and allowed to govern themselves as they see the need to do so.

As far a medicinal use: I watched many family members suffer severly (cancer), because the perscription medications did not keep the pain at bay. I really wish they had considered use of this to ease their transition to the afterlife.

As far a regulating it: Absolutely! I don't want to see people getting high on the street either, nor do I want to see School Bus Drivers getting high before (or during) driving.

*As a side note - this has a tendancy to cause laziness. If any of my employees were to slack off or continue not show up for work, they would be fired.

If it was regulated for non-medicinal purposes, I think we would see a very lazy workforce.

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Personally, I believe marijuana should be legalized. Then the govt could regulate the quality, tax it heavily, and we'd still get better/cheaper stuff than the crapshoot it is to obtain these days (or so I've heard!) and the taxes could be put to use, much as the cigarette industry has been regulated and taxed.

Make it legal and regulate/tax it and the govt will make tons of money and put the illegal marijuana drug trade out of business.

Medical use - marijuana has proven to be beneficial in treating AIDs, cancer and glaucoma. Anything that will help give a seriously ill patient an appetite to eat a little bit or ease their suffering should be available to them. I watched my mother-in-law waste away and die from cancer last year.

I don't really see marijuana as a "gateway" to harder drugs any more than someone who has an occasional beer or glass of wine is going to start downing a fifth of vodka or scotch a day. I remember in high school health education class the teacher told us if we ever took one hit of pot, we would become heroin addicts. That's a pile of BS.

There are laws against driving while intoxicated. I wouldn't want the cop dealing with a madman shooting at people to be high on marijuana or alcohol or anything that could affect their reaction time and mental judgment. (OK, caffeine and sugar maybe, let them have their coffee and donuts.)

But if someone wants to imbibe responsibly on their own time, I don't see a problem with that.

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I don't believe that cannabis is a 'gateway' drug. The reason that cannabis users meet harder drugs is because they are required to approach the black market for cannabis. If cannabis were regulated and distributed in legitimate markets, cannabis users would not run into the harder drugs that are only found on the black market.

As for medicinal use, Pokemon's Conscience's response was very under-studied. There is already a chemical replacement drug for cannabis called Marinol. Marinol delivers THC, but it doesn't get you high. It's supposed to make you hungry in the way that THC can. Apparently, it works. But, people with cancer and AIDS who suffer from nausea cannot stomach the pills. Oops! Smoking as a delivery system for THC is still not best, but at least it doesn't add to the nausea caused by the available treatments to these illnesses.

As baffled mentioned, its not a physically addictive drug, and as medical science knows, it has medicinal value. It doesn't belong in a classification as a dangerous drug like heroin. No one in history EVER died from a cannabis overdose.

Whats hardest for me to believe is that US prisons are full of non-violent cannabis users serving mandatory sentences. What a waste of time and money for the DEA and the states that must house these otherwise productive people.

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Legalizing/controlling cannabis has many benifits but I think it would really help local shops if they where allowed to sell it as well under similar terms as alcohol.

I myself very rarely ever smoke canabis simplr because I can't be bothered to go out and find someone that sells it, but I do think I should have the right to buy it if I wanted, I have lots of friends that smoke it thought and they are all normal, they are not druggies, and I hate to think that every time they smoke it they are breaking the law when they are causing no harm to anyone except themselves.

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I think that we should be very pragmatic on this issue. Let's look at where it has been legalized, and what the results have been...

I am, obviously, talking about Amsterdam. Despite the image that we have about the wild drugs and sex there, the truth is that Marijuana use is no higher there than over here. Harder drugs (heroin, cocaine, etc..) are actually on the DECLINE.

There are 2 reasons for this:

1) Since drug use is pretty much legal it is no longer "cool" for young people to use them.

2) More importantly, most hard drugs are used by addicts, and by not criminalizing their addiction they can get help, and they don't have to hide in the shadows. The average heroin addict in the Netherlands is in his mid-40's, MUCH OLDER than just a few years ago. Quite simply, young people are not interested in hard drugs over there.

One study I read showed that much of the drug use in Amsterdam is by foriegners coming there to use them, and that the locals are not really interested in drugs anymore.
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I don't like pot, or any other drugs. However, I want to do what works. By legalizing it we will largely eliminate the drug dealers, save billions of dollars, and I don't see how doing so would increase use. Let's face it, anyone who wants to smoke weed already can very easily.

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Very good impartial report at http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/

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I just don't understand how booze can be legal and marijuana isn't.
I can't remember, for example, an air-rage case fuelled by someone high off marijuana - I can remember loads fuelled by drink. Same for car-rage and traffic accidents. I concede that it may be difficult to gauge such things accurately, due to the fact alcohol is widely available everywhere, but it is certainly still true in Holland.
It's the inconsistency I don't like - if you ban marijuana, then ban booze too. Or legalise both. As it stands, it makes no sense.

Addendum: And it sounds boring.

NPR is doing a series of reports on the underground economy. Yesterday's was about someone who worked in the pot delivery business in NYC. They said the unofficial policy of the NYPD is "don't be out on the streets pushing and annoying people" but what you do in your home is pretty much your own business.

These pot delivery services are actually very sophisticated with warehouses and distributors and courriers who deliver. They even have incentives like buy 6 get one free and referal bonuses.

On the other hand the police crack down hard on kids openly smoking pot on the streets.

It all seems highly practical to me. No need to change the laws just how we enforce them. Go after the dealers that are involved with pushing to kids and violence and leave the ones that treat it like a business alone.

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Marijuana could be legalized but kept under very strict medical use where it seems it is the only drug alternative that can work. It should not be freely prescribed in place of other drugs that would cure the same ailment.

Most of the time Marijuana can be replaced by other drugs to accomplish the same goal.

If a person is prescribed Marijuana, they should be held to strict orders to not share it with others and if they do, they get drug-trafficing charges brought on them and get the prescription taken away for punishment.

The people that want to legalize Marijuana want to legalize it to the point that it is as easy to obtain as cigarettes and alcohol which would be very unwise. Those sorts of people are only interested in the “high” that they would get and care not of the medicinal application.

All in all, if it might serve as the only alternative, then it may be prescribed.

The argument “one more poison won't make much difference” is just a cop-out argument and holds no water—a foolish remark. Just because we have polutants doesn't mean we need more—very stupid. It should not be released to the general public because of all the harm it would bring. It is still very dangerous even as a medicine.

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Make it legal and regulate/tax it and the govt will make tons of money and put the illegal marijuana drug trade out of business.

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HA! That takes the cake. Government makes tax money from it and then has to spend that same tax money to get people off of that drug because of addiction. Then some people move to harder drugs for the “high” and get the associated problems, all because of the legalization for the general public to use it not to mention the problems it would cause for the family and work environment and more accidents and must I say anything else—very dumb reasoning. That would sure send our country into poverty. Where is the money going to come from then? The Poor?

Where do we draw the line? Then people want to take the line further. Why don't we legalize harder drugs? Legalizing it to the general public would be way too dangerous. No thanks. I can do without all those added problems.

I can just see it:
marijuana: legal for all to use
10 years later....

Drug use up 300%, crime rampant, tax increase to control crime, more families in poor house because of drug abuse.

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Cigarettes are already doing enough damage by themselves, aggrevating asthma problems in children from second hand smoke and hurting those innocent children because it causes more health problems. Cigarettes should be banned but unfortunately the cat was already out of the bag and it's very hard to put it back once it's loose.

Oh, no! Yes!!

Ban Alcohol, legalize weed!

As georged said, you don't see many cases of pot heads crashing around town in their cars or starting confrontations on planes. You'll never see a fight at a pot party that's guaranteed! Pot heads are much more mellow and are more aware of their actions than drunk people IMO.

Poke, what is your deal dude! You should
smoke one and relax !

Also, I think the most important angle of this issue is HEMP! One acre of hemp makes as much paper as 100 acres of trees! Our american farmers are all losing their farms because of not enough cash crops to go around. Hemp is the solution to many problems in this world. Hemp oil can be made into a very viable fuel such as corn with ethanol. Hemp fibers can replace many things that have utilized tree fibers in the past. Hemp could bring in a whole new chunk to our economy and help us create a great industry to export! The only reason hemp is illegal is because it looks exactly like pot. If you smoke it, you'll get one hell of a headache (i speak from personal experience)!

I don't think it is right to outlaw any drug in it's natural form. Cocaine, heroin, Xtasy, LSD, and other processed drugs should be outlawed. If you have to make the drug, it shouldn't be legal. If it grows in your back yard, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. Legalize mushrooms, pot, opium, anything that grows! Refined & processed drugs are our real enemy.

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If my memory of history serves me, there was a time way back in the 1800's when the British (I think it was the British) traded opium to the Chinese for other Chinese export goods.

After a number of years, a decade or so, a huge number of Chinese were addicted to opium. It so crippled that country that the ruler of China told the British to stay way and never to set foot on Chinese soil because of what the opium did to the people and blamed the British for bringing opium to China. Do you ever wonder why it was that China was cut off from the rest of the world up until modern times? That's a big part of the reason. Learn from history. I don't remember the details but I recall the opium problem in China, opium the natural drug that is grown.

Do you really think those drugs are outlawed for no reason? Come on, think about it. That's the one thing that has had extensive tests run and behaviors studied and the conclusions are that those drugs do much more harm than good. In fact, for the most part, the more they study them, the more proof the scientists come up with that if they are used for leasure there will be dire consequences. I doesn't matter whether they are natural or processed, they can do the same amount of damage to society if made legal. Don't kid yourself. Quit being the ostrich.

Do you really think that if the drugs would do more good than bad that so many scientists and doctors would warn against them. Listen to the 50+ years of study. For every claimed good use of those drugs, there are 10-50 bad side effects that grossly outweigh the benefits.

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BTW, there are people that drive just as dangerous in cars that are under the influence of POT as they do when under the influence of booze. Watch a few eposodes of Cops and you'll here of bad driving with POT too.

The only reason alcohol is a major contributor of car crashes right now is because it is legal. Legalize pot and you'll find those numbers of pot drivers causing accidents rise dramatically.

Are people here able to think further than their noses? What has happened to sound logic? Oh yeah, the drugs messed them up and now they don't have the ability to use logic.

Uh oh, the news is out.

Curt,

I totally respect your point of view! But let me explain a little more. I tend to think the exact opposite of your view of me (ostrich). I think you may be the ostrich because drugs will never go away! You cannot destroy the drug problem by going after the supply side of things. You MUST go after the demand! Use the sales of drugs (which have only increased in the last decade) and tax them to create effective drug rehabiliation programs.

Drug rehabiliation is the only way to deal with drug abusers, not jail! I don't like the fact that my tax dollars are going to keep drug abusers in jail (over $26,000 a year per inmate). Over 65% of inmates in federal prison are in prison on non-violent drug charges (this fact was presented in the PBS special "America's War"). Does this seem like a smart way of dealing with the problem. You cannot stop people from doing drugs! You can make it harder for them to get it but this is only more profitable for the dealers and suppliers.

No I am not a druggy, and in no way do I condone driving a car under the influence of ANY drug!! I do think the U.S. as well as many countries globally are dealing with this issue in the completely wrong way. Heck, the world was run by communist type goverments for thousands of years until we finally figured out democracy was the only way to stable success.

I think someday we will all realize you can't stop the drugs from coming to your door, but you can stop yourself and friends from buying them. Remember, stop the DEMAND, and the supply will go away.

Decriminalize and Legalize!

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If you legalize all sorts of drugs you lift the barriers and make drugs openly available to all and that does not stop people from gaining access to drug but encourages people to take drugs more.

You think $26k a year per inmate is a lot of money. Many of those inmates aren't in jail for drugs but other things too. The cost would be far more if drugs are made freely available to all, mark my words.

Your health insurance would go up dramatically.
Insurance would be made to cover the rehabilitation and many more people would have to be rehabilitated. Look at what is spent in helping people to quit smoke. It's worse with drugs that are even more addictive. That's not to mention all the other health costs caused by the drugs—the doctor visits and hospitalization.

Crime would increase dramatically.
People that are on drugs make for dangerous work conditions. Companies would have to fire all the druggies. If the druggies can't work they can't make money. They have to turn to crime to support their habit. Their children starve because of no money income. And it gets worse. People out of work don't contribute to the economy they hinder it.

Family problems would arise because of abuse.
Who suffers? The family. People on drugs don't care about anyone but themselves because they are no longer in control of their actions. The drugs take over their lives. Family would be made to take on the burden. And what if the parent of the house is the druggy? Who's gonna bring home the money when no one wants to employ a druggy? The children are the ones who will be the final victims. The situation perpetuates itself. The children learn from their parents and they too take drugs and it gets worse.

No, making them available is not the answer.

Your answer increases the demand for drugs because there would be no barriers. It's like saying “let's not forcefully stop terrorism but try to talk to Usama bin Laden and try to convince him to not take our planes and run them into buildings. Usama, you can be a terrorist just as long as you don't terrorize us.” Drugs don't only affect the one taking them but all those that are around that person too. It's far too dangerous to make drugs free for all.

You dream in code.

Many years ago Calif voted to make Pot use NOT illegal. It's been a minor infraction here if under an ounce for many years. A pot ticket costs a whole lot less than these mafiosa parking tickets imposed in LA, but that's a different subject.

CA was also were among the first to legalise pot for medical reasons, but like many of the the state laws we have enacted here i.e prop 187, the eradication of of Affirmative Action and several others we have overwhelmingly approved, the Feds have elected to step in and tried to deny our right to decide how to best govern the world's 7th largest economy.

I think we are powerful enough to say pi$$ off Feds, you are NOTHING without CA (well maybe Redmond might be of some import also)!

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Celeste, I don't know what happened in LA, but I know here, in San Francisco, the Cannibis Clubs caused lots of problems, as non-prescription holders were smoking away also. You should not need a night club for "medication".

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Power should NOT have anything to do with passing laws “against” or “for” drug use. It matters not that CA has the 7th largest economy. We need to do what is good for people and not use $$$ to influence the situation. Sadly, laws are passed based on $$$ and greed and irresponsibility without considering the consequences in the long run. Just because people want to be irresponsible doesn't mean they should have the right to be, especially when so many other people are affected and victimized.

However with CA making these drugs freely available to the CA citizens, you can bet in 10 or 20 years CA will no longer be the 7th largest economy. It will be their undoing. The life of debauchery majorly caused the Roman Empire to fall—the same with CA. Learn from history!

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Well, I don't know about that, but this thread is about cannabis. Just saying 'drugs' in that vague generalised way gets this argument nowhere - are you talking about 'aspirin' or something?
The trouble is, there are people who can't see the difference between cannabis, heroin, crack or whatever, they just say 'drugs' or 'the companies will have to sack all the druggies'. For what? Having a smoke? Or jacking up in the cubicle?

Another thing, there is a member of my family who smokes the weed every day and has done for at least ten years (I mean that literally). In this time she has gained a first class degree (summa cum laude) in physics after graduating second overall in her year, this whilst raising a child, mind you. She then went on to do her doctorate after the university let her skip a year, putting her in the quick stream in her peer group of people who were clever in the first place. She has an IQ of around 165, which puts her way up in the top 1% of intelligent people on the planet. She is easily the smartest person I know, and as I say, she smokes the stuff every day.
Knowing this, I have no time for people who claim people who smoke weed are automatically lazy, unintelligent or wasting their lives - I know their claims are based on ignorance.
If anyone has any valid points about why cannabis is illegal and alcohol is, I'd love to hear them.

If you took the time to read all the posts up to this point...

That is just one person—not the norm. You can't base something on one person. Just do your research at the library or online and read the scientific studies done. There are plenty of them.

There are people that will always try to make smoking pot look harmless. Heck the cigarette companies have been doing that for a long time, making their product appear harmless and up until recently were fairly successful in convincing some. They point to George Burns and his long life span and his cigars. He's just an exception to tobacco smoke. Your family member is just the exception too.

I've seen people under the influence of pot and it isn't pretty nor are they safe from harm. They get real stupid because they are real high and their breath stinks to high heaven too—yuck.

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Drugs. Pot. Doesn't matter which term we use. I think most here have the intelligence to figure out that when someone says drugs they mean Cannabis. Cannabis is a drug.

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Curt, cannabis is a drug, not all drugs are cannabis. Let's call a spade a spade, and not a 'gardening utensil'.
"I've seen people under the influence of pot and it isn't pretty nor are they safe from harm. They get real stupid because they are real high and their breath stinks to high heaven too—yuck."
Substitute 'alocohol' for 'pot' in the last quote, same thing.
I'm not saying its harmless, I'm no doctor so maybe it is, maybe it isn't. What I am saying is that it is illogical to allow alcohol to be legal, but not cannabis. I see no qualitative difference between one or the other.
What I mean is, if we are prepared to allow people to completely lose all self-control when they are drunk, knowing that it can wreck lives, cause aggression and all the other bad effects, I fail to see why smoking pot should be illegal.
I couldn't say for certain that cannabis is addictive or not. I know for certain that alcohol is. I couldn't say for certain that cannabis will eventually wreck your health, but I know for a fact that alcohol will wreck your liver in the long term, and wreck your brain cells the day after a heavy night.
It seems clear to me, though I'm no doctor, that alcohol is by far a worse 'drug' so I still say it is bizarre that it is legal and cannabis is not.
I'm not saying cannabis is benign or "really good, man!". I just think that some people have a knee-jerk reaction when it is brought up - maybe I have a chip on my shoulder because of my family member too. But I bet that many people who wouldn't countenance legalising it are quite happy to get blind drunk. I call that hypocrisy.
And I still say the laws as they stand have no consistency - they make no sense in relation to each other.

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georged,

Good point! It would make sense to make them both illegal. They both do more damage than good in general.

Heavy marijuana use causes lung damage and cancer and a variety of other lung related problems similar to cigarettes (cigarettes would be illegal too). Alcohol is one of the leading problems of dangerous driving proving that people are not being responsible with either drug not to mention the health problems with alcohol. If taking them both away helps more than hurts, then perhaps that's the answer.

I have yet to see a nutritious use of pot or alcohol that far outweighs the harm it can do. The same goes for alcohol. It does more damage than good. Everytime someone says there are benefits, they neglect to mention the dangers that negate the benefits.

But then the issue isn't really if it's dangerous or not, the issue is really “people just want to escape the realities of life at any expense regardless of how harmful the said drug or drink is”. I suspect that's the real issue.

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Should cannabis laws be relaxed

My Gran is 78 years old and suffers from bad arthritis, the doctors are the drug pushers they have her hooked on all kinds of crap, its man made synthetic crap, she cant give up these pills even if she wanted to as it would kill her. Pills are so much different to drugs you can cold turkey heroin but you try to cold turkey these pills doctors so easily prescribe.

I dont agree with drugs like heroin as i have seen too many people go by the way, they would sell their own granny for a fix, it is a big problem here in the uk.

I think as long as anything is took in moderation and not abused then everyone to their own.

Then you have the other argument that pot will lead onto other things like harder drugs.

Only if you allow it remember you are in control of your own destiny up to a point, if you are unable to control your own desires then i suppose you end up a junkie, its just a matter of saying no simple as that.

Take a look at the hippies peace love it got to the point where professionals were dropping out of society and turning into hippies, this frightened the US goverment, they could not be having none of this, what with doctors, solicitors dropping out of society it would kill the economy and the country plus where would it stop, so to cull this the goverment spread progaganda the hippies were dirty, they were layabouts, they were drug pushers, they were evil, they had to destroy the hippie culture before it destroyed them.
And thats the truth.

Think about it for a moment just say the hippie movement was not destroyed where would we be now. In a way you cant blame the goverment for wanting to put a stop to this movement if they did not we would all be living in communes smoking dope all day and bonking each other.

Sounds good to me

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""I dont agree with drugs like heroin as i have seen too many people go by the way, they would sell their own granny for a fix, it is a big problem here in the uk.""

I agree I would never legalize herion, because I have seen it mess up so many people's lives.

I don't think canabis leads to harder drugs though unless you want it to.

The main bad thing about having to buy canabis illegally is you have to go to the same drug dealers that sell the bad drugs, so some people get pushed into it, and they also think if canabis is illegal and thats ok how can another illegal drug be bad.

I just think if a drug is really bad ban it, and if a drug is not so bad don't, that way there is a clear distinction between drugs that fu*k you up and drugs that don't.

I myself hardly touch cannabis, I liek to drink though and I don't see how me drinking alcohol is any better than them smoking the stuff, In many ways alcohol is prolly worse.

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I think Jim is to blame.
After all he did call this forum

GET HIGH :0

if when you're lonely you read your log files to make sure that people still love you.

If this forum replaced the wall st journal as a daily paper for you

if you read this and you are still in your underwear and havent taken your weekly shower

...if you purposely visit your favorite sites according to their load times -- longer loading sites mean you can take that bathroom break and grab a beer before the next page finishes loading...

you refer to going to the bathroom as "downloading" and eating as "uploading"

Your computer desk is twice as big as your couch ... and still completely cluttered.

The < and > are worn off your keyboard.

You know you are a webmaster if you post a message in this topic and think it's funny.

This one included.

You wonder if Lands End have that shirt in 99CCFF.

You laugh at this

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if you find yourself at a bar for the first time in months and leave, because all you can't find any one to talk about positioning with.

and then you go straight back to this forum.

You know your a webmaster when you work a 20 hour day and 4 hours later you do it all over again, and again, and again......

And if you think driving to work is a complete waste of time.

You know you are a webmaster when you give your wife a new website for Valentine's Day, her Birthday...

Your mind keeps tripping over your fingers by typing "link" instead of "like" and you prefer to go for a "scroll" instead of a "stroll".

you have misplaced an item about the house and for a split second consider doing a search for it!

You are aware of the entire lingo of short form acronym's for talking to people over the internet (LOL, ROFL, EWG, c u l8r, etc) and have troubles writing english without computer codes, shortforms and these ->

People email you a link to a paticular thread in this forum to get make sure you have seen the thread and to get your commentary on it.

You know you're a Webmaster when some hot shot designer asks you "What program do you use to create your sites?" and you say "Notepad!"

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You know you're a Webmaster if you write all of your emails on the "source" page of MSOE.

You're definitely know you're a Webmaster if your idea of fun is writing code after a half bottle of Crown Royal!

m I wrightt?

... if you have a T1 in your one bedroom apartment

When my wife and son are having fun at the beach while I'm having fun reading this thread.

You know you're a Webmaster if this is your idea of having Fun

Whats the difference between a Webmaster and a Webmistress???

A webmaster does not have to queue up to use the washroom in a busy public place

You know you're a webmaster if when you're bored you scroll idly through your mailing list to visit the sites listed. Ie. "Joe@iafrica.com" and you open a new browser window to check out "iafrica.com".

...when you kids have to e-mail you for help with their homework

...when the only tan you have is from screen glare

...when you have a porta-potty installed next to your desk

When you're sure that every idea on the Net that is making money, you thought of first

And finally, your decision on what to name your child is based on its .com availability

...your not distracted by your cat whose circling your keyboard, for some attention.

For the enjoyment of newer forum members.

Nice OAC, where is that thread comparing Architects to Webmasters?

If you get excited about a home network..

If you dream of upgrades for your PC for christmas..

... you're reading this thread.

...when we even stop long enough to read an erwinloh post

(hehhee, thanks for the bump on it OAC good one.)
...your clients *insist* that *all* on-line marketing offers, listings and promotions are checked and signed off by you before proceeding.

IF you ever visited SEF.
That was quite boring but i felt i had to write something.