listed in search engines?

Posted By: raqibbd ()
Posted On: 2008-Feb-26 13:20

Recently I've created my personal website. Can anyone HELP me how can I be listed in search engines?


Posted By: g1smd (Staff)
Posted On: 2008-Feb-26 14:39

Get some links TO your site from other quality websites that cover the same topic.

Once those links are discovered (usually takes about a week), you usually get listed within another few days.


Posted By: akashdwivedi ()
Posted On: 2008-Feb-27 06:08

Manually submit your website to the search engines.

Submit your website to quality directories under the most relevant categories.

Be active on some forums with your website link in signature (if allowed).

All the best.


Posted By: g1smd (Staff)
Posted On: 2008-Feb-27 20:17

*** Manually submit your website to the search engines. ***

Err. No. That's not necessary, and for most search engines it achieves nothing.

*** Be active on some forums with your website link in signature (if allowed). ***

That's a big "if", because most "quality" forums do not allow link dropping.

Forums that allow any sort of linked to be dropped into posts, are usually not "quality" sites that you would actually want a link from.


Posted By: Quadrille ()
Posted On: 2008-Feb-27 22:47

I'm not sure that's quite fair; "Be active" is probably a lot more than drive-by link dropping, and plenty of quality forums do allow signatures for 'senior' members, and there's nothing wrong with that (not that there's anything wrong with NOT having signatures!).

But being an active meber in a quality forum can be good seo (assuming the forum is related to your niche), even if it's a just a link in your profile. I'd call it organic seo, in fact!


Posted By: akashdwivedi ()
Posted On: 2008-Feb-28 07:00

Major search engines like Google, Yahoo and MSN have option for website submission to their index, can you please tell then whats the use of these options?

I think Quadrile has replied to some extent what I mean with "Be active on Forums", if your basic need to get indexed asap then the above two are the best way.

comment welcome.


Posted By: Quadrille ()
Posted On: 2008-Feb-28 08:08

1. No use at all!

2. Becoming active on a forum is not a good way to get listed 'asap', as any decent forum won't give URL-naming rights to new members (for precisely that reason). The way to get listed asap is to submit the site to Quality directories. Once the site is good enough for them, it's good enough for the SEs.


Posted By: akashdwivedi ()
Posted On: 2008-Feb-28 09:48

If the search engines are providing such option to submit new websites to include in their index then it make at least some sense.

Le me say in other sense regarding becoming active on forums by showing your website to others through your posts, queries and replies. I don't know the status of SitePoint & Top25Web but they are providing option of Signature.

And I have also suggested to submit the website to quality directories under the most relevant categories.

More comments welcome.


Posted By: freeflyer ()
Posted On: 2008-Mar-01 11:59

saying that forums which allows links in signatures and posts are not 'quality forums' is nuts...

Look at some of the highly succesful forums around the web.. nearly ALL of them allow links to websites in signatures, and all of them allow links to websites in posts.. you cant operate a forum effectively without it. Admittedly these can be used for shameless linking by spammers, but this is normally immediatley obvious to any moderator or admin, and posts are removed. Post made with links in context are perfectly acceptable...

I started and ran a forum with 2500 members for six years.. never caused any probs to have links allowed in posts, and ir rarely got abused.





Posted By: Quadrille ()
Posted On: 2008-Mar-01 12:32

I hear what you are saying; but you need to read up on nofollow.

I'm not saying such forums are of no value in their niches, I'm talking about Quality in seo terms.

Since nofollow came in, forums that do not use it have very little link value, precisely because of the level of misuse that many have recieved.

Look at the next drive-by link dropper here; take a [chunk of text from their boring self promotion] and Google it - you'll find 50, 100, sometimes over 200 identical posts in other forums.

Since nofollow, any forum that allows such stuff is of no value in SEO terms. Ses are pretty sophisticated these days, and don't like being abused.

One day, the drive-by link droppers will learn; meanwhile, we can all laugh at their pathetic and doomed attempts to game Google.

Sitepoint and top25 are not exceptions to google's rules.

"If the search engines are providing such option to submit new websites to include in their index then it make at least some sense."

Nope, it makes no sense at all. SEs work by spidering the web and following links. Even if you submit a site with no links, it will not stay in the index for long, and will have no useful ranking.

If you want to draw SE attention to a new site, then upload a sitemap. But search engine submission is a total and utter waste of time. Sorry!

Google actually says "We do not add all submitted URLs to our index, and we cannot make any predictions or guarantees about when or if they will appear." - and that appearance will depend almost 100% on the links to the site. If the links exist, then Google will find the site and index appropriately.

My guess is that SEs still have the means to submit as they otherwise get 30,000 emails a day saying how do I submit wink


Posted By: g1smd (Staff)
Posted On: 2008-Mar-01 19:30

*** saying that forums which allows links in signatures and posts are not 'quality forums' is nuts... ***

I was reminded of the Digitalpoint effect.


Posted By: shand0 ()
Posted On: 2008-Mar-02 16:53

Try this

{Dinkar: Nice try}

[ Message was edited by: Dinkar 03/03/2008 01:54 pm ... Reason: Link edited as per TOS. ]




Posted By: Quadrille ()
Posted On: 2008-Mar-03 02:55

That's the kind of cr*p that gets people spamming all over.

And there's a typo:

"Get Your New Website Indexed by Google in 5 Days or Less"

should be

"Get Your New Website Indexed by Google for 5 Days or Less, then get a Google ban for life."

Total wombat! (sorry, Australia)