Hello,

I have been looking around to purchase a search engine submission (submitter)software to submit few of my site.
I found quiet a few, so I am confused, from memomry price range from $29 up to the hundred if not thousands.
It is rather confusing, and there is no clear website that have a review of each of them (If there is please let me know where).

So I am turning to you guys for your opinion of what is the best out there.

What I require is all the mambo jumbo, such tracking, doorway, etc and submitting of course, I saw a complaint as one guy was saying some advertise their software to submit to 800 000 places, but 799 600 are ffa pages. So what do you guys think is the best, I have about 5-6 sites to submit, and really the less I pay the happier I would be, but then again ifI have to spend a lot and is well worth it, then it might be interesting. Then off course I do not want to pay for something from a company that is to go out of business in 4 weeks, as it has happen to me in the past.

What do guys think about the following:

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Thanks for your help, and I am sure it would help a lot of other people.
Caloute

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Hi there.

Sorry i didn't take the time to look at all your links. Basically this is because some are just scamming you for your cash. Like the 800,000 web submission...pffff. Why would you want this? You would receive 100's, if not more, of spam e-mail. Trust me, I know a lot about web site submission - I've bought so much crap out there.

Personally the Submission-Program from www.submission-program.com works best. I say this because i rank in the top ten for 90% of my keywords, in search engines like Yahoo & AltaVista. Most of my ranks are number 1. The program is brilliant. There are so many features you can use.

-Keyword Analysis Tool: This tool is great as it shows you which keywords will get you the most exposure.
-Position Analysis Tool: - You can check where you rank in the top search engines.
-Link Popularity Tool: Check to see how many other people are linking to your site. The more people that link to you, the better ranking you will get
-Dead Link Finder: Search Engines hate to find dead links on your page. This tool checks your site in seconds and reports any dead links. Yahoo won't even list you if you have a dead link.
-Meta Tag Tool: this generates your meta tags for you, so there are no errors.
-Submission Tool: This lets you submit to over 20 search engines with one click - simple.

This product has generated a lot of traffic to my web sites. But you can't simple submit your web site. You must make your website user-friendly - ensuring you chose the right keywords, and that your meta tags have relevance to your page content. If you don't know anything about this you should read up on SEO.

This company also offers a website submission 'service' where they give you free consultation. They review your site and tell you what needs to be changed or improved on and this makes your website 100% user-friendly.

With either purchase they give you a lot of free stuff too. I got a class free web template, free eBooks on how to gain site traffic, about SEO, the secrets of google etc.

You should check them out. I give them 11/10 - why wouldn't I - I'm number one in Yahoo hehe. once again www.submission-program.com. In a couple of weeks let me know your ranking

Oh - when i say user-friendly; i mean 'robot-friendly'. These are used by search engines to rank you site. (I'm sure there are better explanations than that - but thats basically it.)

And wow, $2000 for one the programs - and it has the same features as the submission-program...one word - ludacris lol. Don't waste your money man. And definately don't do the ffa submission thing...personal experience trust me. Oh, and make sure all companies offer a refund gaurantee. Good luck.

Thanks Baaf,

I read your post a bit earlier, it seems to be one of the less expensive software, certainly I am not going to spend $2000.I think some of the others are interesting, for example I know submit wolf has been around for a while probably since the late 90's, the others I am not sure.
Thanks for your post, it is good to have some feedback.
I mean I know I can always try free demo, but I am not too sure it is necessary to bother, good reference should suffice, what I want to do, is just get on top, like the rest of us.

Caloute

You don't need to submit to the search engines in the first place. Let them find you. Build quality inbound links. That will make certain that search engines follow these links to your site.

You don't need those tools. They don't help any.

Yeah I'm getting pickup by SE I guess, logs show the big guys hitting the site, but what about the smaller ones?

I have been reading a bit about the specs of a few of the submitters, so far webposition and submit wolf are a bit expensive to get decent specs you have to spend over 299, which you get for cheaper with the others.

So far I think Web CEO /IBP (From Axandra) / Trafficseeker for less than $200 are ptentially good, as they offer lots of other analysing stuff. Anyway you might tell me you can buy this stuff separately, well if it is gonna be the same price then, I might as well get a submitter.
I think a$99 version of traffic seeker represent good value, But I am going to download the three just to see what's the deal.

Caloute

caloute - not wanting to sound rude, but you have been given advice by two moderators with a combined post count of over 8,000 posts and a combined membership here at SEF of eight years and you appear to be ignoring them. May I ask why?

baaf1 - you are certainly number 1 in yahoo for Agriturismo Aniene Italy but that isn't a phrase I'd normally use when looking for a B&B in Rome.

A DOCTYPE listing at the top of your source code and then a quick code check at http://validator.w3.org/ (both of these are free) will help ensure the site is well understod by bots and browsers.

I receive over 500 visitors a day. How many do you receive?... And under other kewords such as 'b & b holiday rome italy' which are searched a lot, I rank in the 20's. This is just after one submission - quite impressive I would say. Each time I submit my ranking will improve. Next time when you check the source code, don't try the keywords on their own - ty putting them together. And for keywords like 'Aniene' - Do you speak Italian? Are you from Italy? No, i persume so. Those keywords are 'targeted.' Next time, carry out a better research.

Oh to be exact - 'b & b holiday rome italy' is searched 358,511 times per month. I am ranked no. 21 after the 1st submission. I receive 100s of hits from this phrase alone per day. And I thank it all to www.submission-program.com. A great company that has put my companies into profit after 1 month. Companies are meant to break-even after a full year. pffff...

PhilH not wanting to sound rude as well but all I have asked is some opinions on some search engine submitter software. I have read countless SEO books, strategies etc... I know a bundle of techniques to "optimize" my pages, but unfortunately it does not work miracles all the time, when 100 people have decided to apply the same techniques, It is hard to make it on the top 10. Everybody is so much glued on Google, everything is google like that, Google like this etc...and everybody is an SEO expert it seems this days. When I started to surf the internet back in 96 non stop until 06 (With some sessions of over 18 hours a day), Altavista was the big SE and so was Hotbot, bottom line is why try to fight so much to get on top 10 of google when you can get on top 10 on few others with less work, the reason why I want to purchase a submitter is to get good position on less popular engine, cause even they are less popular I can get more hits with less work than try to make it on the big G.
The submitter I am talking about are much more than submitter, they have a lot of analysing tools that I believe can make the difference. I hope you understand my point. Frankly I am sick of hearing only and all the time about Google, LIke I have said I have hits from Google, MSN, ask Jeeves, but what I am aiming is to get better positions on smaller engines, I have a PR5 site from which I link to my new sites so they are spidered, I have have also some PR4, PR3 pages and sites. Anyway PR does not mean much, as far as traffic is concern.
After I have read a little bit on submitters and comparing specs, rating from tucows (True ratings), prices, it all comes down to 3 software: web ceo / IPB from axandra / Trafficseeker.
I have downloaded the demo, and I am giving it a try.
BTW it is not because you have x number of posts that it makes an expert on any subject.

Caloute

>> Everybody is so much glued on Google, everything is google like that, Google like this etc...

Yup - I wish it wasn't like that too, but with their market share you can understand why. We get enquiries every day and to a man they all want Google - so we focus on Google. Our clients are really not interested in Yahoo or MSN very much at all, even when we point out percentage market share across the board. We also ask, as part of our procedure, how they came to find us - the answer is always either word of mouth or Google. I cannot remember one instance where a potential client mentioned Y or MSN - or any other SE.

However, I understand you wanting analytics software - it really does help plan long term marketing strategies, but, IMHO submission software is a waste of money.

I understand there is a big 'hype' about Google, it being the top search engine and all. However, with the program I use, I am ranked quite high 1-21 under all keywords after one submission - under search engines: Yahoo, AltaVista, All The Web etc. Andi receive considerable amounts of traffic. If I fought for a place in Google it good take quite some time as Caloute pointed out. So why not fight for something less competitive which gives more results in a shorter period of time.

Submission to search engines will not increase rankings. Once your site has been found by search engines, resubmission does nothing for you. So why submit?

Search engines find sites using the links to you on sites that they have already indexed. They also "score" those links for "relevance" and "popularity" and "age" and "authority".

Having indexed your site, they score it on the title, meta description, visible content, age, and many other factors. Resubmission has no influence on these factors, and so is a waste of your time (and money, if you are paying for this).

you must resubmit to keep your ranking as everyday there are new submissions. so as not to lose your ranking you must resubmit on a monthly basis. sometthing you should research on obviously.

baaf1 - That is totally wrong - where did you get that info?

LOL. Where do you get this stuff?

You have to be kidding.

So your saying you only need to submit your website once, and that when new submissions from other websites are made...it does not affect your ranking? That sounds silly. SubmitExpress, SubmissionSpider just to mentoin a few details the info. Then why do so many companies offer monthly submission!

They offer the service because they make money doing something that most people do not realise that it is something that they do not actually need to do...

>> Then why do so many companies offer monthly submission!

They are the bad guys - Preying on the innocent.

Never take advice from a salesman.

Do you speak Italian? Are you from Italy? No, i persume so. Those keywords are 'targeted.' Next time, carry out a better research.

Sorry baaf1. Wasn't trying to offend. I didn't realize you mainly wanted Italian traffic. I simply searched as I would if planning a vacation to that area and wanted a B&B. I tried the various keyword phrases from your meta section on the assumption that you used the keywords you expected from potential customers and a few others.

Your 500 visitors per day is certainly above what my web site attracts at this point. Lucky for me that I am in a much less competative area of eCommerce than you are.

I'm sorry if I appeared to be rude. Aniene & Agriturismo are for submission to Italian search engines. The other keywords are great in phrases, as i say i rank 21st in Yahoo of over 2,000,000 results. Now that I've been informed my ranking will not improve after re-submission I will investigate other methods, as top 10 would create a more competitive company and business. But there is no rush

Good to know you've come round Baaf here you'll find a good source of knowledge of what to do (and not what to do) to help you