4874
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-13 23:10
My Boss, Fred Voetsch, is interested in selling Online Business.com and wants me to find out how much a site like this is worth. I have no idea. I'm interested in hearing what you think this is worth. If you need more information please let me know.
1. Owner: Fred Voetsch
2. URL: [http://www.onlinebusiness.com/]
3. Age Of Site: started in 1996-06-30
4. Feb. unique visitor: 28,413
5. Income: n/a
6. Reason for selling: money to market other sites
7. Will you help with the transition of the site to the new owner? Yes
8. Does the site have an e-zine or newsletter? No
9. The asking price for the site: not sure
10. Google PR rank: 6
11. Google Backlinks: 431
12. Alexa Traffic Rank: 69,470
Thanks,
Kenny Adams
Online Business
[ Message was edited by: 4874 03/14/2006 11:50 am ]
[ Message was edited by: 4874 03/14/2006 11:51 am ]
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magicstar
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
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Posted: 2006-Mar-14 15:47
Kenny, sites are usually sold here and elsewhere for a multiple of what they make per month. In the absence of solid earnings figures it is difficult for most buyers to price your site.
On the face of it the PR6, age of the site and 1000 visitors per day look attractive but then there seems to be a break in the WHOIS history in 2001 (if true, the site is only seen as 5 years old by Google, not 10). The big problem that I see though is the spammy image it has built up with Google [link] For this site and the subject the home page seems to be about I can't see value in 12000 pages. If one was to bring this back to a credible state it would take a lot of work to manually edit 12,000 pages.
I'd offer you $1,000.
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4874
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-14 18:01
Hi Magicstar,
This site makes about $300 a month total at clipart.com, Burst Media.com, and Google Adsense. The value really isn't in the site it's in the domain name. This site is old and outdated and should be completely deleted and started over from scratch. Mainly I'm trying to find the value of this domain name.... OnlineBusines.com. And if the price is right we will sell.
magicstar wrote:
On the face of it the PR6, age of the site and 1000 visitors per day look attractive but then there seems to be a break in the WHOIS history in 2001 (if true, the site is only seen as 5 years old by Google, not 10).
If you look up Google and Online Business in Whois you will find that Online Business has been around longer then Google.... check out the Way Back Machine.
magicstar wrote:
I can't see value in 12000 pages.
I don't either, only in the domain name.
Kenny Adams
Online Business
[ Message was edited by: 4874 03/14/2006 10:29 am ]
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webland
Joined: Feb 14, 2005
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Posted: 2006-Mar-15 17:41
4874: I sent you a PM
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magicstar
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
# Posts: 230
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Posted: 2006-Mar-16 08:49
>> Online Business has been around longer then Google
Can you confirm that the registration never expired (because once it does the site loses all its history as far as Google is concerned)? If it was re-registered in 2001 the site's not older than Google at all. Being listed in archive.org does NOT prove continuous existence (and you probably know that).
>> The value really isn't in the site it's in the domain name.
I'd have to differ with you there. Get domain valuers involved if you want but I suspect that you'll find the domain is pretty worthless and if there's any value it's in the rest.
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4874
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-16 22:40
Hi Magicstar, The registration never expired for this site. About that time it was transferred over to Bulk Register.com.
Kenny Adams
Online Business
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magicstar
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
# Posts: 230
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Posted: 2006-Mar-16 23:34
Fair enough. Assuming this can be proven I'll raise my bid to $1200. Again, this is basing a $0 value on the domain name itself.
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sundaybluez
Joined: Mar 16, 2006
# Posts: 112
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Posted: 2006-Mar-17 07:32
Hello MagicStar,
You seem to be an expert, can you please help me evaluate my domain names.
I am trying to sell some of my domains as i am looking fwd to gather sizable amount of revenue for further development of my prime website Pen2Plane.com
Search4Mobile.com
AllTheMobile.com
Foot2Ball.com
BettingTable.com
HotelsAndTravels.com
HotelsDetails.com
Finance99.com
JobsOnMobile.com
FoodOnMobile.com
Thanks & Regards,
Nilesh
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magicstar
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
# Posts: 230
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Posted: 2006-Mar-17 16:39
sundaybluez, thanks for the label but I don't feel like I'm an expert in anything.
More importantly, you really should start your own thread rather than rudely hijacking somebody else's.
4874, the WHOIS.sc link suggests the site goes back to only 2001. AFAIK, when you change registrar the WHOIS "from" date does not get updated. Unless you can point me to something that proves otherwise.
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kennygadams
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-17 18:11
If this was a serious inquiry this could be proven but not for $1,200.
Kenny Adams
Online BusinessOnline Business
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magicstar
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
# Posts: 230
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Posted: 2006-Mar-17 19:12
If this was a serious inquiry this could be proven ...
Kenny, if you were a serious seller you'd have at least a vague idea of what it was worth or you'd have researched similar domains on the dropcatch/newreg markets.
If you didn't but were vaguely confident in a high value you'd have invested in a professional valuation (either by an accountant specialising in the valuation of domains ... or one of the many valuation services around) instead of relying on assorted unknown entities to throw up wild guesses.
If you were a bit on the honest side you'd have addressed the issue of the broken WHOIS. Or at least admitted you misled us originally.
And if you were a savvy businessman you'd have made a case for why you think $1,200 is too low instead of deriding an offer from probably one of very few people on this site who could pay $100K if you were able to demonstrate $100K of value.
Good luck with your valuation/sale. I withdraw my interest.
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kennygadams
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-17 20:29
Magicstar, We are not interested in a quick sell. The right buyer will come along eventually. You are obviously not the right buyer... your just looking for a great deal. $70,000 is the minimum price we will except. If your not serious about buying please don't post here.
Kenny Adams
Online Business
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magicstar
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
# Posts: 230
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Posted: 2006-Mar-18 00:06
your = your
you're = you are
But, as I said, I've withdrawn my interest.
your just looking for a great deal
Not as much as you're a chancer. $70,000. ROFLMAO. I'll watch this thread (and the WHOIS for the domain)
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alferman
Joined: Jan 11, 2006
# Posts: 15
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 01:58
Oh, 70,000...nice. Onlinebusiness.com - really nice domain name, BUT... 70k... he-he. I don't know....
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bkleinheks1613
Joined: Feb 03, 2005
# Posts: 13
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Posted: 2006-Mar-21 23:16
onlinebusiness.com is not worth $70,000, $5,000 maybe since it's aged. But even that is a long shot. Just put it up on ebay and link to it form all the domain for sale forums...you might get $10K for it tops.
Another unrealistic seller bites the dust.
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darrens
Joined: May 27, 2004
# Posts: 182
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Posted: 2006-Mar-29 15:07
sent you a pm ... waiting for a reply !
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kbiggs
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
# Posts: 11
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Posted: 2006-Apr-21 03:33
70k? I don't see how you're site is making money off if anything from the few pages I've seen..
How much does the site make a month? My site makes a good amount of income, and I can prove it with bank statements and canceled checks Can you do the same?
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4874
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Apr-21 03:59
Online Business topped out at $700 dollars last year, I can prove it too!
This domain name is valuable. How valuable do you think it is?
Kenny Adams
http://www.onlinebusiness.com/
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kbiggs
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
# Posts: 11
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Posted: 2006-Apr-21 04:47
The site made $700 in all of 2005? That's about $1.91/a day?
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kbiggs
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Apr-21 04:52
ok, I think you meant $700 a month? I may be interested. But only if you can prove how much it made last year, and what you expect to make off it this year. I do like you have many pages, this would save me lots of time trying to create them my self.
and I see that you think your domain name is worth something, but times have changed, it's not cool to have such a plain name.
All the new sites are weird words for names. Google, Flickr, del.ico.us, YouTube, etc. My sites domain is 25 characters long, and I make good traffic. All that matters is traffic.
How many unique IP's come to this site a day? Average?
[ Message was edited by: kbiggs 04/20/2006 09:15 pm ]
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