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langard
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Posted: 2005-Mar-29 08:19
Somebody will cut us off. It's their duty.
In the mean time I think it's important for me to clarify that C (of any vintage) is a Ferrari. All markup is a Volkswagon. C# is fast. Very fast.
That said, C# won't invite you over to the house party or even let you in the gate unless you are, well, a C#. No exceptions. No matter what, you better show up as a C and leave as...who knows.
But PHP, on the other hand, invites everybody over and then sorts them out based upon their merit. "GD Library? Come on in. What? You brought cURL and some of your Finnish encryption friends? Tell them all to come in too."..."MySQL is going to make a toast at six...let's talk about changing the whole deal to accomodate you..."
Bottom line is that I'm not talking about sheer speed and efficiency. That was never in question. I'm more interested in the FLEXIBILITY of markup.
Think of it this way: If C# is so cool, why in the world does markup exist in the first place?
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langard
Joined: Dec 15, 1999
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Posted: 2005-Mar-29 08:19
Somebody will cut us off. It's their duty.
In the mean time I think it's important for me to clarify that C (of any vintage) is a Ferrari. All markup is a Volkswagon. C# is fast. Very fast.
That said, C# won't invite you over to the house party or even let you in the gate unless you are, well, a C#. No exceptions. No matter what, you better show up as a C and leave as...who knows.
But PHP, on the other hand, invites everybody over and then sorts them out based upon their merit. "GD Library? Come on in. What? You brought cURL and some of your Finnish encryption friends? Tell them all to come in too."..."MySQL is going to make a toast at six...let's talk about changing the whole deal to accomodate you..."
Bottom line is that I'm not talking about sheer speed and efficiency. That was never in question. I'm more interested in the FLEXIBILITY of markup.
Think of it this way: If C# is so cool, why in the world does markup exist in the first place?
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langard
Joined: Dec 15, 1999
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Posted: 2005-Mar-29 08:27
Sorry about the double post, but the BBoard won't let me delete either one. It says I am not the originator, so I must bow to electronic discretion and hold myself blameless for doing so. Hope everyone else will too.
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lizardz
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Posted: 2005-Mar-29 20:24
"I'm more interested in the FLEXIBILITY of markup.
Think of it this way: If C# is so cool, why in the world does markup exist in the first place?"
It sounds like you think that I am suggesting that sites use C languages. Obviously I'm not suggesting that, no one else was either. Only sites that need that type of heavy duty speed need that kind of programming, and there's not very many of those sites in the world.
I liked markup languages like HTML when I first found them, HTML and CSS are cool. But scripting languages are cooler, can't remember the latest stats exactly, but currently netcraft has 70% of all domains running Apache, which means they are running either perl or php if they use scripting. Which is pretty good. And IIS is losing market share, LOL. No surprise there.
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unreviewed
Joined: Dec 07, 2000
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Posted: 2005-Mar-30 01:32
http://www.python.org/
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Mar-30 01:46
Yeah, I've been reading a lot about python, it seems to be the favorite of really good programmers, at least of some of the ones I've met or read interviews with.
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unreviewed
Joined: Dec 07, 2000
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Posted: 2005-Mar-30 02:05
Jump start python for the web with http://www.zope.org/ and http://plone.org/
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JakeJeck
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2005-Mar-30 20:00
Langard, you have no idea what c# is or does.
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langard
Joined: Dec 15, 1999
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Posted: 2005-Apr-06 09:47
Sorry, do you mean to say that I'm not aware that C# is an avant-garde, Microsoft/Java/Delphi morphodite OOP language that is supposed to make everybody's programming life easier?
Well, maybe. All that talk about it being "symbiotic" and "machine-independent" and elegant and compact and astute...is the same drivel that's always been laid out before every NEXT language in line just to promote it or justify it.
Ask the banks in Brazil what they think of their Sun Systems run-time environment.
This isn't a COMPILED language quorum anyway. The closest that people in these forums will get to C# is if they happen to script in .asp or .NET or even VB - which means they are in the wrong place to begin with...a PHP forum.
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lizardz
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Posted: 2005-Apr-06 20:58
"All that talk about it being "symbiotic" and "machine-independent" and elegant and compact and astute...is the same drivel that's always been laid out before every NEXT language in line just to promote it or justify it."
LOL. Well said.
And equally well said is this:
"which means they are in the wrong place to begin with...a PHP forum."
A point which seems to have eluded JakeJeck from his first comments. And to be honest, that doesn't surprise me.
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langard
Joined: Dec 15, 1999
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Posted: 2005-Apr-10 09:56
NEntropy,
Since the original poster hasn't been in here for some time, perhaps you should move this thread to the "No Playing in My Sandbox Forum".
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