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Logan
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 21:46
New Ad Links - Provides links to adwords results based on keyword. Not sure on this as what does a publisher get paid for. An extra click before earnings is required and then what do you earn? hmmm.
New Payment Options -
Check - Standard Delivery
Check - Secured Express Delivery ($30.00 Processing Fee) <errrr - okay>
BETA Electronic Funds Transfer
.... beta ... Electronic Funds Transfer
[link]
New TOS - Biggest thing I noticed is that you if i read it correctly you may now are not restricted on disclosing the amount google has paid. Not sure on the exacts of before/after but worth a closer read.
Lots of new stuff
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 21:57
The new Ad Links, [post removed]
I've been playing with this, and it is something very different, sort of like a search box, but not.
[ Message was edited by: unreviewed 03/15/2005 03:10 pm ]
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 22:33
Ok, took some playing around, if it has no ads to display, it looks like a search box, however, if it has ads it displays links, in my case the links are all brand names and should I think will increase clicks.
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Logan
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:03
the links i've seen provided straight 'keyword phrases'. kind of a spam list
blue widgets
green widgets
black and green widget
i'm not convinced (at all) regarding it increasing clicks as the user has to click a link to see ads then click on an ad. That extra step makes me wonder, why not just show them and have them click on the ad in the first place. Seems natural that it would equate to less earnings versus more to me, but i'm open to experimenting with it a bit. I'm curious to see others uses and results with time.
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:07
I think because of the keywords, because often the ads are very poorly written. I wouldn't replace the ads, but I think this at the bottom of an ad block may increase click revenue. I've got them up, so I'll soon know in a day or two.
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:12
Also, I'd like to know if the CTR is the same as the ads, or lower like the search box ads.
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Logan
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:18
unreviewed, that's a good point on how to use - that makes some sense so that i don't cannibalize existing clicks but supplement what is there already.
I've looked thru the eft and i'm going to wait a month for everyone else to work out the potential bugs i think. For now a check delivered to me is okay and hasn't been an issue, although i'm sure those outside the us are sure to jump all over this.
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:25
One odd thing is that after a visitor clicks on one of those links, there isn't a link back to your site. The "clicker" must use the back button or click an ad. Also, although the "keywords" seem to be very good per page, the ads displayed are not as good or related as they should be. Adsence needs to add code for a link back; in the same way that thier search box works.
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Logan
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:30
Yeah, i noticed that ... go figure - i'm thinking google thought that thru and didn't land on the side of 'do no evil' regarding that decision.... so far...
Regarding the reporting/stats ... from AWA (over at that other forum) -
"Your reports won't track clicks made on the Ad Links topics. Only clicks on the Google ads linked from the Ad Links topics will be tracked. However, impressions are reported for each instance of the Ad Link unit as well as for each pageview of the resulting page that displays ads, so I wouldn't recommend clicking on your Ad Links topics to avoid"
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:42
And also, I'll assume the revenue paid will be the same as normal Adsence ads, although because of the 2 click process, I think an argument could be made that those clicks may covert better for advertisers, perhaps this might work into smart pricing.
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Logan
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Posted: 2005-Mar-15 23:50
What i'm unclear on - and would be a major factor to me in deciding to use or not - is if a user clicks and views the list of ads there is no payment (i understand that) ... then they click an ad I receive payment (i understand that) ... but what if they view a site from an ad and then click back and click additional ads (do i also get paid for those additional ads clicked or just the first one). When they do this clicking back-n-forth between ads/my site I know I get paid.... while with this adlinks i'm unsure with this type of scenario. I notice a reference to the publisher in the url, so i'm hopeful <but not sure> all clicks on ads would provide earnings.
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unreviewed
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Posted: 2005-Mar-16 00:38
Good post from Jenstar on the new TOS changes,
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum89/5618.htm
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