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omegaman66
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Posted: 05/05/2003 08:24 am
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I am in bad need of a good image program. I am using an ancient photoimpact program which was good at the time but is far less powerful than the new stuff.

Is photoshop what everyone here uses? Or there other programs for graphic that you use also. Such as Firecracker?



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Posted: 05/05/2003 09:57 am
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Photoshop is the industry standard - it is awesome!

The other graphics software I use is Fireworks (is that what you meant?) - this is brilliant for compressing images without losing quality.

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Posted: 05/05/2003 12:08 pm
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Yes, Photoshop is the industry standard but its price tag and learning curve are both pretty steep.

PaintShopPro is a very capable, lower cost alternative.

The GIMP is free, never used it, have heard its interface is rather awkward.

For quick and dirty stuff (cropping, resizing, converting formats and such) you can't beat IrfanView. It's a small freeware program that launchs fast and doesn't use a lot of RAM. Doesn't do everything, but what it does, it does very well. smile



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Posted: 05/05/2003 02:14 pm
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My program does resize, crop, formats, effects. But it is basically designed to work with pictures (jpgs) not powerful when it comes to gifs. It has the basics. I can combine gifs, decide delay speeds and such.

But it doesn't have anyway to do things like select shapes and warp them. Or automatically put text around an object. You know the good stuff to make logos and such. Need a program like that. Does fireworks do that, (That is what I ment). Are do I need both if I want more MULTIMEDIA type stuff?



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Posted: 05/05/2003 05:51 pm
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Post deleted by jcokos. "thevirus" thought it would be helpful to suggest to our membership that downloading a pirated copy of the program in question would be a good solution.

This not only violates our terms of service, but is ethically repugnant.

As a result, posting rights have been revoked.




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Posted: 05/06/2003 10:08 am
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Photoshop is definantly my tool of choice, been using it for years and IMO it is the best around. The Gimp can accomplish most of the things that Photoshop can, but JeromeQ was right about the fact that it is a bit goofy to use -- by far the best free solution though.

Photoshop has a watered down version called Photoshop Elements that only costs ~ $100 I think; from what I understand it contains all the normal tools that is good for most people, they just left out the advanced stuff.

The features you are talking about (typing around an object, etc) are found more in programs like Adobe Illustrator and Macromedia Freehand; Photoshop is made more for photo editing and not so much the tools one needs for logo creation. Check out www.adobe.com and www.macromedia.com -- both companies offer demos of these products. I am sure you will find one that fits your needs.

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Posted: 05/07/2003 07:13 am
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Reiterate what patrickh said about Photoshop Elements. The real differnce is that Elements doesn't allow for CMYK. Not a real problem for web applications. I've got both Photoshop and Photoshop Elements and find that for speed, ease of use and user-friendliness, Elements is the one I choose for anything non-print.

Also Illustrator/Freehand are both vector graphics programs, a must if you are serious about logo creation.



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Posted: 07/24/2003 04:04 pm
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If you want to be honest and pay for your software without selling the farm there are quite afew to choose from.

http://www.ACDsystems.com has some well priced image management tools,

http://www.Jasc.com has some great stuff and so does http://www.smartdraw.com and http://www.ulead.com .

None of these are as powerfull as Photoshop, and None of these cost as much as photoshop...

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Posted: 12/02/2003 02:10 am
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Paintshop Pro is about a quarter of the price of Photoshop and is almost as good. It warps, does text around paths, photo editing, lighting effects, slicing and animations and you can download a full working demo from www.jasc.com to test it out.

Good value if you ask me.



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Posted: 12/02/2003 07:57 am
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Photoshop with ImageReady is very handy for web related work.

We have the publishers bundle that includes pagemaker, photoshop, illustrator and acrobat. Perhaps you do not need the other components but illustrator is very handy for more advanced text effects and we use acrobat frequently to send documents to clients. The adobe bundles are a good value if you use the various components.



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Posted: 12/30/2003 03:07 pm
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Dreamweaver Studio MX 2004 or Photoshop + ImageReady + Dreamweaver (or both) are the professional tools of choice. an alternative would be coreldraw, as this is not *my* program of choice but is powerful, has layers and lets you do what you need.

you need:

layers-compatible image editor

slicing program (preferably), ie. imageready or fireworks

dreamweaver or go-live.



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Posted: 01/29/2004 07:12 pm
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You might want to try Pixia.

It is freeware, compatable with Photoshop Plugins, and in many ways simmaler to Photoshop.

I have used it, and to me it is a great program.

http://park18.wakwak.com/~pixia/



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Posted: 01/30/2004 09:50 am
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That looks like a really sweet little program. Hopefully I will have time to download it and try it out this weekend.



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Posted: 01/31/2004 08:54 pm
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You want to use Photoshop,Fireworks and Paintshop Pro if you want to produce professional web graphics. Thats all there is to it.



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Posted: 02/02/2004 01:04 pm
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While those would be the optimal choices it's not always an option. For those just starting out the prices can be steep.

Some of the lesser known products can be just as useful as the better known, it just a matter of what you do with it. After all - they are all tools and tools are only as good as the person using them.


 
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