Paul987
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
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Posted: 11/22/2003 06:35 am
Im coming to the conclusion that sooner or later i will have to get photoshop and start learning it ( i hear its a steep learning cure ). I have been using Fireworks for the last 2 years but i am realising it has its limitations. Its good for making the base template but i need something that will allow me to make slick graphics and logos that will really make the site look professional. The only problem is the price tag . So my question is, is it worth it ?
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excell
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Joined: Mar 19, 2001
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Posted: 11/22/2003 08:04 am
Yes it is worth it and the new version is even better, I hear
I only use fireworks to slice sometimes and haven't used it to create..
I find both illustrator & photoshop are needed to work with for different aspects of design.. if you are serious the tools are worth the investment.. as far as learning, well.. they are fairly intuitive, but there are also a lot of tutorials etc available if you need quick help.
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Leigh
Joined: Nov 06, 2003
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Posted: 11/22/2003 08:07 am
If you're already familiar with Fireworks and are budget conscious, I'd suggest adding Freehand as it has a comparable interface. If you can afford Photoshop though, it's worth every penny once you learn it.
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pjnunn777
Joined: Jul 17, 2003
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Posted: 12/03/2003 03:05 pm
Am due to be getting the new version (CS) in a couple of days so I'll post my thoughts as and when.
As for the original question, yes, get Photoshop and Illustrator if you can. They are both well worth the initial investment.
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kevleitch
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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Posted: 01/08/2004 12:04 am
All above echoed- PhotoShop is the king, all others are mere pretenders to the throne as it comes bundled with ImageReady you don't even need FireWorks (macromedias worst ever product IMO) to slice stuf up.
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msllc
Joined: Jan 14, 2004
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Posted: 01/15/2004 07:51 am
Fireworks=M-80
Photoshop=C-4
I used fireworks for a while myself and finally got my hands on Photoshop. I don't see how I did without now! Save... Save... Save... it's so worth it!
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beyondenraged
Joined: Jan 14, 2004
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Posted: 01/15/2004 06:20 pm
I actually have Photoshop 6, and I've fallen in love with every feature that I've learned on it. I know that there are many that I don't know, but I usually take some time every night to learn something new on it. It's kept me busy for well over a year, and I'm sure it will keep me busy a lot longer. The only other image editing software I use is Jasc Paint Shop Pro, and it has done nothing but collected dust since I got PS...I'll quit rambling now.
Get photoshop! It's kinda like a new car..
-William
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kevleitch
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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Posted: 01/16/2004 06:34 am
Can only echo what the others have said- get PhotoShop, accept no imitations
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Paul987
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
# Posts: 115
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Posted: 01/17/2004 11:35 am
ok i have just got photoshop, i had to sell a kidney but i got it. But what now ? From what i have seen of it so far its all a bit daunting, there are so many options and sub options. My question is what are the most usefull effects for web design ? I suppose there are loads but i just need somewhere to start.
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JQ
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Joined: Mar 11, 2001
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Posted: 01/17/2004 06:15 pm
Congrats, Paul!
My best advice is don't let Photoshop overwhelm you at first. It is a very deep program and few every truly master it.
Do a search on beginner tutorials. There are a lot of them out there. You'll want to start by learning what the various tools do, how to work with layers, masks, manipulate text, make selections, color adjustments, etc.
Then try tutorials for specific effects. A lot of Photoshop is not really intuitive and you would never think to try a specific sequence to achieve something. There are a lot of Photoshop "recipes" out there.
And I would hazard a guess that there have probably been more books written about Photoshop than any other single computer program.
There are a lot of great sites devoted to Photoshop you can browse for inspiration. Also, when you see a graphic or logo you like, try to see if you can figure out how to recreate it yourself.
Investigate plug-ins. Some are costly but others are free/shareware. Many of the pay ones offer a 30-day trial or limited functionality version so you can test them out.
Have fun and best of luck to you with it!
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bloodxus
Joined: Dec 22, 2003
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Posted: 01/31/2004 08:58 pm
The only addon in the new version that is worth really anything is type on path. PS7 works fine for me.
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mit@web
Joined: Mar 02, 2004
# Posts: 7
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Posted: 03/03/2004 12:02 am
Hello Friend
i also want to use the Photoshop for my web Graphics.Can you please Suggest me how to do ? any good tutorial ?? Sites ? How to make attractive bar
Mit
Thanks
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Enterprise
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
# Posts: 132
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Posted: 03/03/2004 04:59 am
Tutorials -
http://www.adobe.com/products/tips/photoshop.html
http://www.sketchpad.net/photoshp.htm
You can also find plenty of books on the subject.
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Rezac
Joined: Jan 25, 2004
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Posted: 03/08/2004 10:34 pm
It's a tuff one...lots of tricky stuff.
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excell
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Joined: Mar 19, 2001
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Posted: 03/09/2004 04:44 am
Well - as long as you can get it to do what you want to achieve (as an end result) you will do well.. As for me - I guess that I am using about 10% of the power and features of the tool and I'm doing what I want.
I don't have time for tutorials and use such programs via intuitive learning.
Don't be fearful, just try it out
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willo32
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 04/27/2004 02:31 am
I've been using Photoshop for about 8 months now, seems like i've been using it for ages but i'll discover something new every now and again and then go on the web to find a tutorial to try and master it. It can be tricky but once you've learnt the basics you'll be able to get the hang of the other features much more easily. My advice, don't try and learn too much of it at once. I probably only use about 20% of the features, but it does eveything i need.
Will
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Polka_Queen
Joined: Aug 02, 2002
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Posted: 05/04/2004 03:26 pm
I know you are all happy with Photoshop (and you should be...) but if you do not wish to sell a kidney, and want to keep it all vector - check out Xara X (xara.com,) and the tutorials/gallery at xaraxone.com. The app. is like illustrator, but with all the fat sliced clean off - leaving you with some really sleak code.
(I'm not affilated with any of the mentioned sites, or the vector application itself.)
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joqed
Joined: Sep 03, 2004
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Posted: 09/03/2004 02:45 am
Photoshop is (in my humble opinion) the only bit of kit you need to produce web graphics of a proffesional standard. Hard to use at first, especially if you have little experience of its content. But after a year or so there is very little reason for me to look elswhere.
Buy it, learn it well, and use it . the best investment i have made in software to date.
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firebuffgal
Joined: Oct 16, 2004
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Posted: 11/28/2004 08:28 am
Paul987: Get in there and start using it. Then invest some time and money into a class (whether it's a 1 day workshop or a full semester). I learned Photoshop on my own then about a year later went to an immediate class, though I was ahead I still found features that I never even used that was most helpful. (I tend to learn more efficiently while watching others instead of through reading.)
As far as Photoshop CS, I have been using it for about 3 months now and it really isn't any different than version 7. The difference is when using the Indesign CS and youw ant to change your photograph, you can edit it in Indesign without ahving to go to Photoshop. Haven't really decided whether that's an advatage or not!
Don't forget the handy automated tools in Photoshop: applying an action to a group of photos, create web photo galleries, photo print packaging, etc...
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dyrah
Joined: Mar 17, 2005
# Posts: 11
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Posted: 03/17/2005 08:39 am
We'll it really depends on the features of the latest version. Photoshop 8 is now upgraded version of Photoshop.
Photoshop CS is now loaded with indispensable new features that help creative professionals craft the highest quality images more quickly and efficiently.
Photoshop CS increases user control, with a redesigned File Browser enhancing search, sorting and sharing capabilities and a new Histogram Palette monitoring changes in the image as they are made.
So, i think it is worth it to have that updated software.
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