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1stAboard
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Posted: 2001-Jan-23 07:52
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Hi,

I know it's best not to use frames in regards to SE's, but isn't there a way to frame your pages without modifying them?

For example, I've seen many sites where people simply frame someone else's site.

Couldn't you do the same thing to your own site? Create all pages like a regular site, then frame them as if externally?

This way the only "framed" paged, as far as the SE's were concerned, would be the main frame template which is pulling up all of your regular pages.

If this is possible, how would you do it?

Thanks





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Posted: 2001-Jan-23 23:20
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That would just make the pages regular parts of a framed site and cause you problems with traffic generation.

How about using Server Side Includes (SSI) if your goal is to make your site more easily maintained?

Take a look at the JimWorld Reviews area which was built using SSI to illustrate how it can be done. The link is on the first page where you can read the Gazette article about SSI and see the code used.

http://jimworld.com/reviews/

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Posted: 2001-Jan-24 08:16
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Gee, Jim ... another winner!



Judy Portanova
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Posted: 2001-Feb-15 01:58
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I noticed you saved your "include" pages as top.html nav.html etc... I thought they had to be saved as top.shtml. What is the difference?



gal
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Posted: 2001-Feb-15 11:19
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Judy, the difference is depending on your server. Servers can be set up to only parse shtml files as SSI, or can be set up to parse every file [in fact you can specify to parse html files and not htm files, etc.].

All of this differs with your host. You may want to check the support information of your host. If you can't find an answer there, you can contact them with a question.

I have a "cheapie" host for a couple of sites, and they only support the shtml convention, because this adds no additional work for them--its there, and you can use it if you want. I simply put a command in my .htaccess files so that all html files are no SSI. It's not supported by the host, but it works.





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Posted: 2001-Feb-16 05:11
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Interesting, gal. What was the command?



DougOM
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Posted: 2001-Mar-01 04:38
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Hi,

You can use a simple Javascript to bring the frameset back when someone try to open a single page. This way you can submit your pages normally, when a visitor clicks, the frameset come back.

The code is:

<script>
if (parent.location.href == self.location.href){
window.location.href = 'index.html'
}
</script>

In the above example, index.html is your frameset page.

Regards

Douglas



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Posted: 2001-Mar-01 11:23
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AddType text/x-server-parsed-html .html

Here is the line I put in my .htaccess file. It may or may not work on your server. I am on a UNIX host.

The last ".html" tells the server what files should be processed as SSI files. So, if I try an include in an htm file it won't work. This is just the way I wanted it.

I seem to remember an "x-bit hack" command also, but can't seem to find it now. You can just try something, and if it doesn't work, "back-up".


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