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Webmaster-Toolkit.com
Joined: Jul 18, 2002
# Posts: 1098
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Posted: 04/26/2004 08:25 am
a good free link from a PR5 site
Remember you have to think of PR per page - if a site has PR5 on it's home page, it doesn't mean the page you're getting a link off is has the same PR
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greenleaves
Joined: Mar 21, 2002
# Posts: 720
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Posted: 04/26/2004 08:37 am
That is true. But I din't see any pages (obviously I din't check them all) of the directory that wore below PR4.
Did someone just see the index jade PR go from 5 to 7?
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putontop_com
Joined: Apr 18, 2004
# Posts: 19
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Posted: 05/03/2004 07:50 am
A little off topic, but I know you can use free credits with most pay-per-click search engines. Do about 10 of them and you could end up with over $500 worth of free advertising. Some are better than others though. I use http://roiclicks.com/
They are not huge but get consistent hits plus you can resell the service as an affiliate.
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philh
Joined: Sep 14, 2001
# Posts: 3050
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Posted: 05/03/2004 08:43 am
<Skaffe wants 39.95. Seems steep>
<I just don't have the money to toss 50 dollars at every weird little search engine no one has ever heard of>
You need to realise the free ride is over.
You are either a hobby site or a commercial site - and if you want to make money on the web you need enough capital to start up, as with any business. It's like costing a start-up business without allocating any funds for advertising.
And quite frankly I wish there were lots more "weird little search engines" that only charged 40 or 50 dollars - they can be real gems when it comes to themed inbounds.
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greenleaves
Joined: Mar 21, 2002
# Posts: 720
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Posted: 05/03/2004 10:09 am
Some are better than others though. I use roiclicks
Never heard of ROI clicks. humm, #1,000,000 on alexa, PR3 and the site tries to use activeX controls. I don't like this site. You said you "use" Roiclicks site. Did you mean you just give them money and receive 5 robot clicks a month or do you actually get some decent ROI from them? Do you know what kind of distribution they have?
For most cases you can get 500 dollars worth of bonuses from ppcs. But the problem is with 90% of those 500 worth of bonuses you will be getting robot clicks, the other 10% of your money will go to untargeted clicks. You will be lucky if you get one sale from 10,000 clicks at 0.02 dollars a click. It is better to spend 100 dollars on ppcs, and not get any bonuses but reall, well targeted traffic, then to get 1000 bonus dollars worth of unusefull clicks.
Also if anybody knows some ppcs (excluding 7search, goclick, searchfeed, kanoodle, ah-ha, findwhat, turbo10, theinfodepo, pageseeker, splut, overture, looksmart, or adwords) that are not scams, please post them here, I would like to advertise with them. BTW, only PPCs with decent alexa rankings.
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lici
Joined: Apr 12, 2004
# Posts: 4
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Posted: 05/03/2004 08:37 pm
... only PPCs with decent alexa rankings.
Just curious, why people take Alexa so seriously when it is so easy to manipulate it?
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greenleaves
Joined: Mar 21, 2002
# Posts: 720
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Posted: 05/04/2004 07:09 am
Just curious, why people take Alexa so seriously when it is so easy to manipulate it?
Because no body would manipulate their alexa rankings to be lower than they are. Thus they would only make it higher. By only considering high alexa rankings I am sifting through all ppc, and this way I am not even consider the smaller, more shaddy, less known ppc (with which I have never had or heard of a good experience). When I take the next step and sift through the high alexa ranking sites, I will determine if it is a worthy site to advertise on.
Alexa ranking in not everithing, but when I see: Alexa 3,892,279, and my ranking is 125,265, I don't advertise on a 3 million, so I close the window emediately. It generally has to be, for me 500,000 or better for small deals and 100,000 or better for larger deals. This is just the rule of thumb, I use.
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kzemmer
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
# Posts: 38
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Posted: 07/07/2004 07:08 am
i think g1smd gave the best advice. Submit to this list of free directories and you will be in good shape. I do think it will become harder over time to use free directories to get PR. In the long run, you need to do it the old fashioned way and just have a great site that alot of people will link to naturally.
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kzemmer
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
# Posts: 38
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Posted: 07/07/2004 08:38 am
Let me clarify by saying that while i do think there are a few decent directories, the only real ones i think are worth submitting to are Yahoo and DMOZ.
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fourstardragon
Joined: Jun 01, 2004
# Posts: 60
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Posted: 07/07/2004 07:20 pm
>a good free link from a PR5 site,
Most of the link pages are PR0. It does mean more anchor text, and the PR could increase in the future. (Each page has 25 links and each link goes to a separate page for each site, rather than directly to the site.)
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putontop_com
Joined: Apr 18, 2004
# Posts: 19
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Posted: 07/23/2004 10:44 pm
ALexa is bogus with things like alexabooster.com and fakerank and other fake hits that will move the rankings to 20,000 through proxy servers. that's a well-known fact now. Use the ppc that best suits your needs, leave others their own choices.
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peanutbutter
Joined: Jan 21, 2004
# Posts: 29
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Posted: 07/25/2004 09:54 pm
alexa prettymuch is bunk.
the key to directories is not what one or two of them do, but the combined effect of dozens of directory links. if you have all those links and your competitor does not you stand a good chance to rank above them.
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