this has been done

2. The statement must be false

seen it numerous times in this thread alone

3. The statement must have been made to more than one person (other than the victim) .

how many times has this thread been viewed?"

You are wrong. Libel is actionable per se which means one does not have to prove damage in order to be successful

Slander on the other hand need's proof of actual loss

I am afraid you will need more than High School Law to take issue with me on this particular topic

btw depending on which jurisdiction one is bringing proceedings, a defamatory statement which is to be used or relied on in a Libel action has to be signed by the maker, and you should also not forget the principles and doctrine(s) of fair comment and qualified priv

The case will also always be that the public, the search engines & directories and Search Engine marketers that work a different way will fight against what they see as spam (as defined by the SEs).

There is no need to get personal about it and there needs to be acceptance of the facts of the marketplace on both sides of the fence (if it can indeed be distilled down to black & white). I believe there are shades of grey around the edges and it's the grey that helps to make the "justification" in some folks minds.

However much anyone agrees with different techniques and operates differently it's a good idea to retain a healthy attitude towards others.

Be kind kids

First, I pay .24 on overture, this is .05 a click.

I will not get kicked off Google. I am paying them to do a stand alone site, I have picked three products and his site is just going to give info on these products and have a link to our site to buy from, you ever heard of commissionjunction? Same thing and I am a member. All it is is a link to our site. $7500 is a drop in the bucket for advertising, I think .05 CPC is a steal and have read nothing to sway me, thanks for the input guys and stay real.

I don't think anyone can argue that .05 isn't better than .24 - but of course, it's only a good deal if it produces sales. That depends on the quality of traffic - and the ability of the site to convert visitors to customers.

I will not get kicked off Google. I am paying them to do a stand alone site..

On the whole, you're right, having an affiliate site itself won't get you kicked off Google. HOWEVER, if the site is operated by a person or organization that doesn't follow Google's rules, or have previously spammed them, any sites found operated by the offender WILL get banned.

I personally see nothing wrong with running a quality affiliate program, major retailers do it all the time. but I don't think it's a replacement for building one primary site for branding and credibility. I think it's more profitable in the long term to concentrate on that.

Well it sounds like a bad choice IMO. You would have done better to have your main site optimized for long term results. You probably should have shopped around a bit more. If you're concerned about value for money, why choose this option when you could have had long term results that would last and last. Just my opinion though.

It just don't matter does it?

Hazmat
Our site is not linked to thiers, that would make no sense, they link to us. Our site is optimized for long terms and we get great traffic, however these guys are going to be getting me hits from the Yahoo Directory, we are listed in there but not for the search terms I have given them, this is untapped traffic, the more the better in my situation.

Excell
$7500 is $7500 but that will last anywhere from 3 to 9 months or 150,000 hits, this is not going to make or break me I promise so get a grip man.

"Our site is not linked to thiers, that would make no sense, they link to us."
Well - you need to be careful about what is done with your original site. I do not know what sort of techniques that the company you hired practices. From the sound of it, it doesnt sound the most ethical but I may be wrong. Don't just assume it's risk free.

I think many people who are full time engaged working on the WEB are getting so frustrated at all the offers,SPAM or otherwise, of optimisation, and submit to five million search engines etc, they get to the point where it is difficult to take any more, and can make comments that could be misconstrued, regardless of the veracity of a particular offer.

Everybody is jumping on the bandwagon offering website promotion services, and this situation is made possible by the erratic nature of the search engines, and directories.

As far as Law is concerned, their is an increasing amount of posts around here where for the most part, people are throwing up, "Tricky words", and concepts, all pointing to sueing somebody when the complexity of real word of litigation is not understood, and is very very complicated,and expensive, in reality.

To an extent Hollywood is to blame for this situation

I have never met Janet, but I believe She is, "Nobodies fool", when it comes to the subject matter in hand, and frankly She has lost her Temper in this thread which is unfortunate, but perhaps understandable, although I do stand to be corrected.

Let me make it perfectly clear that Traffic Logic has absolutely no relation with searchconversion.com and I have never even seen that domain until Janet posted it above, telling people that it was us under some sort of disguise.

Janet - While I can handle your opinions about our company, I can no longer tolerate your absolute false claims which have every attempt at damaging our good name. Earlier, I had tried to offer you the sound advice that before you say something damaging about someone's company in public, you had better be darn sure you're right.

You've made the claim that our clients have been banned in Google, which is absolutely not true. You have also claimed that I have made false pretenses in the last thread you just posted. These and other false claims in this thread have been made with the intent to damage our company's reputation.

I hereby request that you retract these damaging statements or our company will have to seriously consider taking action against you. I would very much like to avoid the time and expense of a lawsuit, but we will do WHATEVER is necessary to defend ourselves against false claims with the intent to damage us.

I would kindly ask for this retraction statement within 24 hours...