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drongo
Joined: Jun 28, 2000
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Posted: 04/07/2004 05:19 am
It has been over eight months since my site
www.property-travel-spain.com
went into some kind of limbo-land over in ODP. Since then it has not been available for search.
Winharp said
"It was considered to be better in Regional/Europe/Spain/Business_and_Economy/Real_Estate - where it is to be reviewed by the local editor again. "
If that is so why has it not been reincluded yet after sooo looong!
Is there somewhere I can contact to find out about the status? 
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Webmaster-Toolkit.com
Joined: Jul 18, 2002
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Posted: 04/07/2004 05:25 am
Hi Drongo,
You may already know this: dmoz have a forum here: http://resource-zone.com/forum/
You might want to try a post in the 'Site Submission Status' forum there to see if an editor can give you some feedback on the site's status.
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drongo
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Posted: 04/07/2004 08:48 am
Thanks WT, I will give it a try.
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g1smd
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Posted: 04/07/2004 01:37 pm
Do read the sticky thread "Read Before Posting" before posting!
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windharp
Joined: Mar 11, 2002
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Posted: 04/07/2004 11:17 pm
It's quite a simple answer, so I don't see a problem with answering here: Because none of our voluntary editors found the time to review it again.
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drongo
Joined: Jun 28, 2000
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Posted: 04/08/2004 02:13 am
g1smd, Sorry, I do not understand your post.
Did I break a posting rule or something?
Windharp,
"It's quite a simple answer, so I don't see a problem with answering here: Because none of our voluntary editors found the time to review it again. "
If that is so and the editor can't get around to a re-review after eight months then that says quite a lot about the editor who must have made commitments he/she can't keep.
or...
Who knows, dare I say it, the editor has an interest in keeping the site out? After all the editor had no problem removing the site from the index!
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windharp
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Posted: 04/08/2004 03:14 am
When a site is moved to a different location, it may happen that the editor who moved it has no editing permissions in the target area. Without those, he simply can't review the site at the new place. So it is up to someone who has those permissions to do the rest.
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drongo
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Posted: 04/08/2004 08:34 am
Thanks winharp,
I got the same reply over at the ODP forum, upto 2 years
to get a re-review/review.. and all because they moved it to a category with an inactive editor...good job I don't rely on my site for making money or anything 
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windharp
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Posted: 04/08/2004 11:07 am
If you would rely on this, you better should not count on DMOZ - it is NOT meant to be a marketing instrument.
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Rezac
Joined: Jan 25, 2004
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Posted: 05/13/2004 09:05 am
Well I have to side with drongo here. Irregardless for why you would want to be in dmoz, explain this to me.
If dmoz is so picky in who the decide to be an editor, you would think they get the cream of the crop, yet what work is involved in doing that job?..YOu look at the site, engage your brain for one minute, and then make a yes or no decision. I bet most editors could review all their monthly workload in one evening while they watch TV.
There's just no excuse why it should take more than two months TOPS to get indexed in dmoz.
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cbp
Joined: Dec 25, 2003
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Posted: 05/13/2004 12:28 pm
>engage your brain for one minute,
Rubbish. Some sites take up to an hour. When I started clearing the backlog of sites when I started editing, I was averaging one site a day for review.
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g1smd
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Posted: 05/13/2004 02:12 pm
There are so many sneaky ways that people try to spam the ODP that reviewing each site takes a lot longer than you might think.
Editors are not submission-queue-processors either. They are tasked with building the directory, but the suggestion queue is just one place that sites for review come from. Others include skimming through search results on many search engines, links spotted on other sites, information in magazines and newspapers, and taken from advertising on vehicles, shop-fronts, and many other paces.
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galway
Joined: Apr 26, 2004
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Posted: 06/23/2004 08:16 am
Would it not of been better to move the site when there was an editor appointed at the forwarding category, I imagine that the original category was not too far removed and so therefore its not as though the website is unsuitable for inclusion. The fact is the editor in question felt it would be better in a new location, seems a bit of a white elephant if there is no way of the site being appraised at the new location. (I accept though that the website may of been totally unsuitable in which case there is not much for discussion)
What would happen if the site is eventally appraised and the newly appointed editor (with probably hundreds of like minded sites all backed up) decides that it is more suited to its original location. I think the term limbo is about right. 
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g1smd
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Posted: 06/23/2004 01:53 pm
However, while that one site is in limbo, thousands of other sites in many other categories are being processed, and that is all that matters for the project goals.
The directory grows all the time, that is one of its goals, but for a single editor to direct lots of focus on one site, or to maybe even start asking other editors to carry out a priority review of your one site, could actually be termed as editor abuse and favoritism.
Why should a site that was listed, albeit in the wrong place, now have a priority review in the new category? You are suggesting that your new review should be prioritised before the other sites already sat in the unreviewed queue of the new category? Some of those sites may not yet have ever been listed yet, others may also be moves from elsewhere. They all have an equal right to a review, compared to your site; and that is what the next editor to work in that category will do.
By the way, no category is ever totally without an editor. The indication of a named editor against a category does not indicate that the editor is active. The lack of editor name does not rule out the fact that an editor of a higher category could take a very active interest in the category in question tomorrow.
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