g1smd
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Posted: 07/14/2006 05:42 am
Google has multiple versions of their index in play at any one time, and several experiments that are only on a few selected IP addresses. Google usually says nothing about what the different versions are, but did give out the IP address of their new "BigDaddy" version while it was still in early testing.
By trying multiple IP addresses directly, you can see a range of results, some of which are going to contribute to what the public will actually see in a few days or weeks time. If you are doing badly at some IP addresses it can be useful to track that result to make sure that it is only an experiment that doesn't continue, rather than being the main results that are going to be shown world-wide next week.
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Posted: 07/14/2006 08:10 am
People that copy and paste others peoples work without attribution of original source are very easy to spot.
www.acnis.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=139
http://www.webmasterspy.com/tools/google_database.html
Oi! Yes, you!
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Posted: 07/14/2006 08:16 am
What are these URLs?
http://gfe-ar.google.com/
http://gfe-fg.google.com/
http://gfe-po.google.com/
Where do they fit into things?
Are there any more like these?
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Posted: 07/14/2006 08:23 am
Reports of the demise of the old www-sj.google.com style Google datacentre URLs (back in 2004) were way too early.
They are over here instead, and have grown in number:
gfe-ar, gfe-au, gfe-bf, gfe-bp, gfe-bu, gfe-bx, gfe-cw, gfe-dc, gfe-ed, gfe-eh, gfe-ff, gfe-fg, gfe-gv, gfe-he, gfe-hk, gfe-hs, gfe-hu, gfe-ik, gfe-in, gfe-jc, gfe-jp, gfe-kc, gfe-kr, gfe-lm, gfe-lo, gfe-mc, gfe-nf, gfe-nz, gfe-od, gfe-po, gfe-py, gfe-qb, gfe-rn, gfe-ro, gfe-tw, gfe-ug, gfe-ui, gfe-va, gfe-wr, gfe-wx, gfe-yo
There are 41 class-C blocks in my earlier list, and 41 URLs in the above "two letter" list.
Additionally, as well as the gfe-cw.google.com type URLs, many of them also respond to these formats too:
gfe-cw2.google.com and gfe-cw3.google.com
Just a few also respond to this format: gfe-cw4.google.com
See also:
search.web-sun.com/zatu/d_center.html
search.web-sun.com/zatu/data_center_list.html
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Posted: 07/14/2006 08:44 am
[(offtopic) A list of Google PR and backlinks updates back to 2001: http://search.web-sun.com/zatu/google_n.html]
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Posted: 07/14/2006 10:42 am
For each of these gfe-xx.google.com addresses, the base gfe-xx responds at the x.x.x.104 IP address for that particular class-C block, and the additional URLs (when available) for gfe-xx2.google.com responds at x.x.x.99 and for gfe-xx3.google.com responds at x.x.x.147 as shown. For a small number, there is also gfe-xx4.google.com at x.x.x.103 (cw4, nf4, gv4).
gfe-ar - 72.14.223.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-au - 72.14.211.x - x104 x99
gfe-bf - 72.14.209.x - x104 x99
gfe-bp - 216.239.63.x - x104 x99
gfe-bu - 72.14.217.x - x104 x99
gfe-bx - 66.249.81.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-cw - 216.239.57.x - x104 x99 x147 x103
gfe-dc - 216.239.39.x - x104 x99
gfe-ed - 72.14.219.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-eh - 72.14.207.x - x104 x99
gfe-ff - 66.249.85.x - x104 x99
gfe-fg - 72.14.221.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-gv - 216.239.59.x - x104 x99 x147 x103
gfe-he - 66.102.1.x - x104
gfe-hk - 64.233.189.x - x104
gfe-hs* - 64.233.179.x - x104 x99
gfe-hu - 72.14.215.x - x104 x99
gfe-ik - 66.249.91.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-in - 216.239.53.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-jc - 64.233.187.x - x104 x99
gfe-jp - 66.249.89.x - x104 x99
gfe-kc - 216.239.51.x - x104 x99
gfe-kr - 66.102.11.x - x104 x99
gfe-lm - 66.102.9.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-lo - Not Responding - assume 66.249.87.x block?
gfe-mc - 66.102.7.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-nf - 64.233.183.x - x104 x99 x147 x103
gfe-nz - 64.233.163.x - x104 x99
gfe-od - 64.233.161.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-po - 72.14.253.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-py - 64.233.167.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-qb - 72.14.205.x - x104 x99
gfe-rn - 64.233.171.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-ro - 72.14.203.x - x104 x99
gfe-tw - 72.14.235.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-ug - 66.249.93.x - x104 x99
gfe-ui* - 64.233.179.x - x104 (* same IP as gfe-hs)
gfe-va - 216.239.37.x - x104 x99
gfe-wr - 64.233.185.x - x104 x99
gfe-wx - 66.249.83.x - x104 x99
gfe-yo - 64.233.169.x - x104 x99
Note the duplication of gfe-hs and gfe-ui and the lack of response from gfe-lo at the present time.
The old class-C blocks at 216.239.33.x (www-ex), 216.239.35.x (www-sj), 216.239.41.x (www-fi), and 216.239.55.x (www-zu) are long ago defunct.
For most Class-C blocks, each of these can be used as the final part of the IP address, and most of them will work:
17, 18, 19, 44, 80, 81, 83, 84, 91, 93, 95, (98), 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, (105), (106), 107, 115, 133, 147, 184, 189, (210) and 214.
I have not found any equivalent gfe-xxn.google.com type URLs for any IP addresses except those that end in 99, 104, 147, or 103.
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Posted: 07/14/2006 12:55 pm
Google China has its own DCs.
They use the following IPs for www.google.cn and these cannot be directly acessed by IP address from here:
66.249.89.160
66.249.89.161
66.249.89.162
64.233.189.160
64.233.189.161
64.233.189.162
66.102.7.160
66.102.7.161
66.102.7.162
72.14.203.160
72.14.203.161
72.14.203.162
From this list: ruscoe.net/google/google-subdomains/ I am also finding stuff like:
asia.google.com located at 66.102.7.x x104 x99 x147.
europe.google.com/ located at 66.102.9.x x104 x99 x147.
america.google.com/ located at 66.102.9.x x104 x99 x147.
I am not sure what these are for, but they do exist:
kh0.google.com and kh1.google.com and kh2.google.com and kh3.google.com all located at 216.239.59.x x91 x93.
Additionally, I found gjm.google.com located at 216.239.53.210 too - but even though there is a search box, the search is not functional at that URL.
Likewise 216.239.63.210 is non-functional, and I haven't found an associated domain name yet.
And finally, sandbox.google.com - someone has a very warped sense of humour over there.
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Posted: 07/14/2006 01:04 pm
Hmm. If I had found this page http://search.web-sun.com/zatu/data_center.html a bit earlier it would have saved me a bit of work here.
Seem like the Japanese are many steps ahead of us all over here: http://search.web-sun.com/g_search.html. That is way better than McDar any day.
Additionally, it looks like gfe-ar and gfe-fg and gfe-po are quite new it seems.
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Posted: 07/14/2006 01:20 pm
I amazed that this information didn't make it out to the wider world sooner than this:
http://www.metamend.com/blog/2005/07/11/.
http://search.web-sun.com/zatu/data_center/center0406.html etc.
http://redmagic.info/~Phantom/google/google1.html.
http://apware.co.uk/web/googledomains/
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Posted: 07/26/2006 04:29 am
Here is a list of IP addreses matched with active GFE domain names:
72.14.223.104 - gfe-ar
72.14.223.99 - gfe-ar2
72.14.223.147 - gfe-ar3
72.14.211.104 - gfe-au
72.14.211.99 - gfe-au2
72.14.209.104 - gfe-bf
72.14.209.99 - gfe-bf2
216.239.63.104 - gfe-bp
216.239.63.99 - gfe-bp2
72.14.217.104 - gfe-bu
72.14.217.99 - gfe-bu2
66.249.81.104 - gfe-bx
66.249.81.99 - gfe-bx2
66.249.81.147 - gfe-bx3
216.239.57.104 - gfe-cw
216.239.57.99 - gfe-cw2
216.239.57.147 - gfe-cw3
216.239.57.103 - gfe-cw4
216.239.39.104 - gfe-dc
216.239.39.99 - gfe-dc2
72.14.219.104 - gfe-ed
72.14.219.99 - gfe-ed2
72.14.219.147 - gfe-ed3
72.14.207.104 - gfe-eh
72.14.207.99 - gfe-eh2
66.249.85.104 - gfe-ff
66.249.85.99 - gfe-ff2
72.14.221.104 - gfe-fg
72.14.221.99 - gfe-fg2
72.14.221.147 - gfe-fg3
216.239.59.104 - gfe-gv
216.239.59.99 - gfe-gv2
216.239.59.147 - gfe-gv3
216.239.59.103 - gfe-gv4
66.102.1.104 - gfe-he
64.233.189.104 - gfe-hk
64.233.179.104 - gfe-hs (*)
64.233.179.99 - gfe-hs2
72.14.215.104 - gfe-hu
72.14.215.99 - gfe-hu2
66.249.91.104 - gfe-ik
66.249.91.99 - gfe-ik2
66.249.91.147 - gfe-ik3
216.239.53.104 - gfe-in
216.239.53.99 - gfe-in2
216.239.53.147 - gfe-in3
64.233.187.104 - gfe-jc
64.233.187.99 - gfe-jc2
66.249.89.104 - gfe-jp
66.249.89.99 - gfe-jp2
216.239.51.104 - gfe-kc
216.239.51.99 - gfe-kc2
66.102.11.104 - gfe-kr
66.102.11.99 - gfe-kr2
66.102.9.104 - gfe-lm
66.102.9.99 - gfe-lm2
66.102.9.147 - gfe-lm3
66.102.7.104 - gfe-mc
66.102.7.99 - gfe-mc2
66.102.7.147 - gfe-mc3
64.233.183.104 - gfe-nf
64.233.183.99 - gfe-nf2
64.233.183.147 - gfe-nf3
64.233.183.103 - gfe-nf4
64.233.163.104 - gfe-nz
64.233.163.99 - gfe-nz2
64.233.161.104 - gfe-od
64.233.161.99 - gfe-od2
64.233.161.147 - gfe-od3
72.14.253.104 - gfe-po
72.14.253.99 - gfe-po2
72.14.253.147 - gfe-po3
64.233.167.104 - gfe-py
64.233.167.99 - gfe-py2
64.233.167.147 - gfe-py3
72.14.205.104 - gfe-qb
72.14.205.99 - gfe-qb2
64.233.171.104 - gfe-rn
64.233.171.99 - gfe-rn2
64.233.171.147 - gfe-rn3
72.14.203.104 - gfe-ro
72.14.203.99 - gfe-ro2
72.14.235.104 - gfe-tw
72.14.235.99 - gfe-tw2
72.14.235.147 - gfe-tw3
66.249.93.104 - gfe-ug
66.249.93.99 - gfe-ug2
64.233.179.104 - gfe-ui (*)
216.239.37.104 - gfe-va
216.239.37.99 - gfe-va2
64.233.185.104 - gfe-wr
64.233.185.99 - gfe-wr2
66.249.83.104 - gfe-wx
66.249.83.99 - gfe-wx2
64.233.169.104 - gfe-yo
64.233.169.99 - gfe-yo2
These are not active:
216.239.33.x - www-ex - Gone long ago
216.239.35.x - www-sj - Gone long ago
216.239.41.x - www-fi - Gone long ago
216.239.55.x - www-zu - Gone long ago
66.249.87.104 - gfe-lo - Not Responding
66.249.87.99 - gfe-lo2 - Not Responding
Beware that there are likely to be a number of additional active x.x.x.99 and x.x.x.147 and x.x.x.103 IP addresses that do not yet have a domain name assigned to them.
(*) Note that gfe-hs and gfe-ui both point to the same IP address at the moment, and that that address was the test "Big Daddy" datacentre.
I assume that gfe-hs (x104) and gfe-hs2 (x99) are the regular names, and that they later aliased gfe-ui (x104) on to it for "Big Daddy" testing purposes internally, as in gfe-ui.google.com for the full URL.
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Posted: 07/27/2006 05:09 pm
Some new IP addresses for www.google.cn discovered today:
59.151.21.100
59.151.21.101
These are in a new Class-C block, that I haven't seen Google use before.
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Posted: 09/26/2006 12:53 pm
Yet more active IP addresses for Google have now been found:
72.14.247.18
72.14.247.19
72.14.247.44
72.14.247.80
72.14.247.81
72.14.247.83
72.14.247.84
72.14.247.99
72.14.247.100
72.14.247.101
72.14.247.102
72.14.247.104
72.14.247.107
72.14.247.115
72.14.247.133
72.14.247.147
72.14.247.184
72.14.255.17
72.14.255.18
72.14.255.19
72.14.255.44
72.14.255.80
72.14.255.81
72.14.255.83
72.14.255.84
72.14.255.91
72.14.255.99
72.14.255.100
72.14.255.101
72.14.255.102
72.14.255.103
72.14.255.104
72.14.255.107
72.14.255.115
72.14.255.133
72.14.255.147
72.14.255.184
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Posted: 09/26/2006 04:15 pm
Looks like a new datacentre has come online in the last few weeks.
I don't know the GFE datacentre names for any of these IPs yet.
209.85.129.18
209.85.129.19
209.85.129.44
209.85.129.80
209.85.129.81
209.85.129.83
209.85.129.84
209.85.129.99
209.85.129.100
209.85.129.101
209.85.129.102
209.85.129.104
209.85.129.107
209.85.129.115
209.85.129.133
209.85.129.147
209.85.129.184
209.85.135.17
209.85.135.18
209.85.135.19
209.85.135.44
209.85.135.80
209.85.135.81
209.85.135.83
209.85.135.84
209.85.135.99
209.85.135.100
209.85.135.101
209.85.135.102
209.85.135.103
209.85.135.104
209.85.135.107
209.85.135.115
209.85.135.133
209.85.135.147
209.85.135.184
209.85.143.18
209.85.143.19
209.85.143.44
209.85.143.80
209.85.143.81
209.85.143.83
209.85.143.84
209.85.143.99
209.85.143.100
209.85.143.101
209.85.143.102
209.85.143.104
209.85.143.107
209.85.143.115
209.85.143.133
209.85.143.147
209.85.143.184
Maybe this is the start of operations in the new complex at The Dalles now?
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Posted: 09/26/2006 04:25 pm
Here are the new GFE names:
gfe-ag - 72.14.247.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-td - 72.14.255.x - x104 x99 x147 x103
gfe-fk - 209.85.129.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-mu - 209.85.135.x - x104 x99 x147 x103
gfe-tl ? - 209.85.143.x - x104 x99 x147
[ Message was edited by: g1smd 11/27/2006 01:13 pm ... Reason: Data for gfe-tl updated. ]
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Posted: 09/26/2006 04:32 pm
And GFE names matched to IP addresses long-hand:
72.14.247.104 - gfe-ag
72.14.247.99 - gfe-ag2
72.14.247.147 - gfe-ag3
72.14.255.104 - gfe-td
72.14.255.99 - gfe-td2
72.14.255.147 - gfe-td3
72.14.255.103 - gfe-td4
209.85.129.104 - gfe-fk
209.85.129.99 - gfe-fk2
209.85.129.147 - gfe-fk3
209.85.135.104 - gfe-mu
209.85.135.99 - gfe-mu2
209.85.135.147 - gfe-mu3
209.85.135.103 - gfe-mu4
209.85.143.104 - gfe-tl ?
209.85.143.99 - gfe-tl2 ?
209.85.143.147 - gfe-tl3 ?
[ Message was edited by: g1smd 11/27/2006 01:14 pm ... Reason: Data for gfe-tl updated. ]
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Posted: 09/28/2006 06:12 am
What is this IP stuff?
Do you guys use this info to optimize a different page for each ip address...im just guessing here.
Can you guys SHARE some info please, it would be greatly appreciated :D
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g1smd
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Posted: 09/28/2006 07:31 am
If for the last few months you had looked at gfe-gv you would have seen roughly the same as you also saw at www.google.com most of the time.
If you had looked at gfe-eh, you would have seen results that were quite different.
A few weeks later though, and the results that were only at gfe-eh and a couple of others, now seem to be almost everywhere.
Looking at certain datacentres sometimes allows you to see what Google is working on towards the next version of their index.
There is never a need to check all of them. A small sample is usually enough. The posts just above also show Google adding to their capacity in recent weeks.
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Posted: 09/29/2006 06:15 am
Interesting indeed!
Thanks for the insider :D
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Posted: 10/22/2006 03:38 pm
Another batch of Google IP addresses has gone live in the last few weeks:
209.85.133.18
209.85.133.19
209.85.133.44
209.85.133.80
209.85.133.81
209.85.133.83
209.85.133.84
209.85.133.99
209.85.133.100
209.85.133.101
209.85.133.102
209.85.133.104
209.85.133.107
209.85.133.115
209.85.133.133
209.85.133.147
209.85.133.184
209.85.139.18
209.85.139.19
209.85.139.44
209.85.139.80
209.85.139.81
209.85.139.83
209.85.139.84
209.85.139.99
209.85.139.100
209.85.139.101
209.85.139.102
209.85.139.104
209.85.139.107
209.85.139.115
209.85.139.133
209.85.139.147
209.85.139.184
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Posted: 10/22/2006 03:39 pm
I haven't yet found the associated GFE name for each of these:
gfe-an ? - 209.85.133.x - x104 x99 x147
gfe-pr ? - 209.85.139.x - x104 x99 x147
[ Message was edited by: g1smd 11/27/2006 01:11 pm ... Reason: GFE names now found, ]
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