jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Jan-22 05:05
Hi,
My website sank far in the rankings of google about mid-December.It ranks fairly well with other search engines and did so with google for about a year or more. I noticed that although the bot makes a brief visit now and again, there is no cached pages registered. What does this mean?
A possible infringement might have occured when I dropped one page from internal links after copying material to another active page, but did not remove it from my host. I have since done so (about 10 days ago), but the pages are still not cached - even though the bot made a crawl. Can anyone suggest advice???
Thanks.
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stickym
Joined: Nov 17, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jan-22 12:52
my site has suffered the same since mid Nov and no changes I have made seem to make any difference.
If you PM your site then I can have a look to see if it matches our problems?
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Jan-22 14:56
Thanks. I have posted you an email. Is there anyone else out there who might have an answer? Google searches now account for about a third in number of what the site receives through Yahoo. It used to be the other way around.
I am wondering if the bot deep search might put everything back in order - cache and all.
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Dugger
Joined: Nov 19, 1999
# Posts: 200
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Posted: 2005-Jan-23 15:20
Google's cache: command went wonky with the last "update" - just one of the many problems with that update. Some sites show no cache when typing in the cache: command but do show a cache when clicking on a link in the serps to the cache. Other sites just seem to no longer have a cache even though they are in the index.
It will probably fix itself with the next real update.
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Pongo
Joined: May 27, 2002
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Posted: 2005-Jan-23 19:36
Did I miss something? I'm sure I did  (Iv been writting new content and not keeping up with news) I thought Gergle was still doing rolling updates... Did they go back to their old update schedule (if you can call it that)? When was the last update & do you know the name of it?
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2005-Jan-23 21:04
Google does do a rolling update but every so often there is a bigger change in reported links, and in PR, and in number of pages indexed, and so on; all of those events usually not on the same day though.
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Jan-24 09:53
Thanks guys. Googlebot visited my site from 23 02:27:21 to 23 07:43:03 I hope it has repented of its error. How long will it be before I find out? Any ideas?
I just checked and the cache is still missing. I know theft at Christmas seasonally increases, but this is ridiculous!
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
# Posts: 8
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Posted: 2005-Jan-25 11:04
Can anyone shed light on how long it takes google to update cache? My home page is still not showing any?
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2005-Jan-26 00:04
The cache can be updated daily, or once every year or so. It depends on the PR of the page in question and several other factors. Getting a few brand new external links pointing to a page that you want indexed can often lead to the page being found in just a few days, and indexed soon after.
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
# Posts: 8
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Posted: 2005-Jan-29 00:38
Google replied to my question about my missing cache to say that a search produced the following result:
http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:ZD_Yb1J1HqEJ:www.bible-study-online.org/+&hl=en
Can anyone say what this means? Google gave no explanation.
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jan-29 02:25
They are telling you by showing you that your index page is cached, and is not missing. What that link shows you is the cache of your page. Since it's not missing, there was no need for them to spend further time on the reply, they have so many of these I'd imagine that they just aren't going to do anything more than the quickest check and response possible.
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Jan-29 05:12
Thanks lizardz. The trouble is, the cache is not there. If I click on that link they gave, I get 'Page cannot be displayed.' If I use search and key words to locate my home page, then click on 'cache' - I get the same result.
=_blank gets tagged on at the end. How come Google says it's there, yet I can't find it??? Any suggestions?
It's like being told by your doctor that you're well and it's all in the mind, when you know something is seriously wrong.
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2005-Jan-29 17:32
Write back, and say that the link they supplied says "Page not Found.
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jan-29 18:38
The cached page is there, when I pasted the link into my address bar and hit enter I was viewing your cached page.
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2005-Jan-29 22:03
Hmmm, that'll teach me to write a reply before checking the link:
>> This is G o o g l e's cache of www.yourdomain.org/ as retrieved on 20 Jan 2005 00:49:07 GMT.
>> G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web.
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
# Posts: 8
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Posted: 2005-Jan-30 01:56
I tried the link by pasting it into my address bar. Result: 'Page could not be displayed.'
I tried a different computer on a different line - same result. I am writing from China. Could Google be operating differently in different parts of the world?
I'm still not well, Doc. Any more suggestions?
I believe serps drop and 'cache missing' are connected.
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jan-30 06:56
Not to get into the politics of this, but China blocks many sites on its networks. Your link is working fine if you're not in china. I think Google also works with china on this, but I can't say that for sure, I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
Try setting up a proxy server to get around this.
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jerusalem
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
# Posts: 8
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Posted: 2005-Jan-30 08:46
Thanks lizards. That sounds like a good idea.
Ahhm... Just what is a proxy server exactly?... (Sorry, to be so ignorant.) and how would I go about setting one up?
The other point, however, is that I remain convinced that the site's drop in serps is related to this problem. (My hosting company is based in the USA.)
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2005-Jan-30 20:53
A proxy is a special sort of site that you can access, and it passes on your request to Google, collects the answer, and delivers it to you. It is an intermediate messenger.
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