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lynnc
Joined: Mar 20, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 20:46
Hello!
I recently took on a new client that used to have a website with a competitor of my company. The first of 4 sites went live around February 15, 2006. We transferred all of his original content from each site over. He has approximately 50 pages of original content on the first site. The old site was aspx and ours is strictly html based. All interior page paths have changed as a result. The old paths ended something like this: "/pagemanager/default.aspx/pageid=12345". The new pages end in "/page_name.htm".
All of the old pages from his previous site are still indexed and none of his new pages have been picked up. I realize it has only been one month but it seems odd to me that not one of his new pages have been indexed at all. I created a Google Site Map and added that to his website.
The site previously had top 5 rankings for many of their most important key phrases. I've been closely watching his current results. The site first dropped into the 400's and has since gone up to the top 70's one week and now it's in the top 40's. I find that encouraging but am still concerned that none of his new pages have been indexed. Since the old page path's no longer exist there is no way to redirect them to the new pages.
Does anyone have any advice or do you simply think I need to exercise more patience? Thank you!
Lindsay
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Logan
Joined: Aug 14, 2002
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 20:53
Welcome to SEF Lindsay
Are you familiar with what a 301 redirect is? You need to setup from the old urls to the new ones. This will automatically direct visitors and search engines to the new url.
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lynnc
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 20:56
Hi Logan!
Yes, I am familiar with 301 redirects. However, I do not know what all of the old interior page path's were. It was a completely different company that had those set up. What other options would I have or are there none? Thank you for your quick response!
Lindsay
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lynnc
Joined: Mar 20, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 21:06
Okay, so I was just talking to our programmers and they said they are about to deploy a fix that will redirect all of the old interior page path's to the homepage of the site when anyone tries to click it or search engines try accessing it. Will that work?
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Dinkar
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 21:15
Ask them how they will do that. Don't return 200 or 302 status code.
IMO, if you can't setup 301, then at least setup 404 for those missing URLs.
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lynnc
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 22:48
I guess they are going to do 301 redirects. But they will all go to the homepage of the site. Is that okay to do? It seems like an odd solution to send ALL old URL's to the homepage. It also seems like the easiest solution... that's the part that bothers me.
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Logan
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 23:21
its one solution, not the best as it would be better if those going to your "blue widget" category page were provided w/ your new sites "blue widget" page.
Here is how I would cut thru things. Look at your current stats/logfile activity. For the past 24 hours (or a longer time period if possible) how many visitor requests have hit your server asking for an old url? How many does this compare to your homepage traffic. If a significant number are hitting your server today trying to get old urls, I would then take the most popular ones and start setting up appropriate 301s for those specifically. Every visitor who goes to your domain provides a referrer (captured in stats or by looking at log files). The current activity of this will tell you what urls need to be redirected, or if just an all in one everything goes to the home page is no big deal.
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lynnc
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Posted: 2006-Mar-20 23:52
Okay, that's kind of what I figured. The old URL's file names are all page ID's, though, so simply looking at the URL won't tell me what actual page it used to go to on the old site. I could probably just guess and send them to whatever pages I deem most important on the new site though. I guess that could work.
Other than that, I'm glad to hear it won't hurt results to simply redirect the rest to the homepage. Anyway, I really appreciate your help Logan and Dinkar! Thank you again,
Lindsay
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2006-Mar-21 21:03
>> However, I do not know what all of the old interior page path's were. <<
You don't, but Google does - and a site:domain.com search will list them all for you, each with a title and description, and maybe even a cached copy of the old page too.
You need a 301 redirect for each one of the important pages, and a custom 404 error page with basic site navigation on it for all of the rest.
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lynnc
Joined: Mar 20, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Mar-21 21:50
Hi g1smd!
Thank you. I actually did do that but the problem is that none of the pages are cached anymore. Google still has the list of pages BUT the title's of each page are the exact same thing for each one. And the URL's only provide a Page ID number so it doesn't really tell me what I would have found at one time on each page.
Thanks though!!! I appreciate your help.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Mar-21 22:15
>> ....the titles of each page are the exact same thing for each one <<
Make sure that every page has a different title and meta description on the new version!
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lynnc
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Posted: 2006-Mar-21 22:18
Oh I am!  It was a bit (okay, a lot) disturbing to see every page (more than 50 total) with the same title, description and keywords.
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