rjjj111
Joined: Sep 25, 2002
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 17:58
is the a length limit for google page URLs?
is there a problem using '-' and '_' in the same URL as in below?
i am planning on using.
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3_King-James-Version.asp
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-tape_New-King-James-Version.asp
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-DVD_New-Living-Translation.asp
thanks for your help.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 18:52
Always avoid using spaces and underscores in URLs.
The spaces get converted to %20 which makes%20the%20URL%20very%20hard%20to%20read.
Any underscores visually_disappear_in_underlined_links and two_words is treated as if it were oneword.
Use hyphens or dots in URLs to avoid those problems.
When linking to an index page, always omit the actual index page filename from the link. End the domain or folder URL with the trailing / at the end.
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rjjj111
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 19:22
what about using...double dashes....???
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3--King-James-Version.asp
would this be OK?
i am using bread crumbs on the site and my webguy needs something different in the URL to see which is a group and which is the page?
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3-1-King-James-Version.asp
i did not want to use something like this.....
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3.asp?category=1
what do you think????
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 19:36
Dots work too. I prefer.them.over.hyphens in fact.
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rjjj111
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 19:46
i understand that.
i need something different in the string to break it up unless i want to go with this www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3.asp?category=1
aren't the keyword in the string better?
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3--King-James-Version.asp
or www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3.King-James-Version.asp
or www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3-4-King-James-Version.asp
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 19:52
How.about.dots.with.the-hyphen.in.the.middle?
Oh, and make sure you stick to all lower case in the URL if you want an easy life.
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rjjj111
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 19:54
got it, what about double dash?
--
would that work too?
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rjjj111
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 19:55
i kind of like the double dash....
www.theaudiobible.com/Bible-on-MP3--King-James-Version.asp
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rjjj111
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 20:09
why stick with all lower case?
Oh, and make sure you stick to all lower case in the URL if you want an easy life.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-20 21:56
Once you Start Doing Some Capitalistion, Some URLS are More Difficult to Remember Which Words were Actually Capitalised - then you Start Getting into Duplicate Content Issues.
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neilt
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Posted: 2006-Jul-21 09:09
What is better a - or a .
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gsulvaney
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Jul-21 19:46
Here's a tip:
Search the web for statistical anaylsis tools that will allow you to score your URLs using actual search engine ranking data.
Gary
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-21 19:52
Better for what?
Both visually break the URL up for the reader.
Search engines understand both as being a word break.
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info_vnetworking_nl
Joined: Jul 23, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Jul-23 19:23
Hi There,
My expierence is that '-' is treated the same as '_'.
If you have keywords in your links/domainname/imagename, you
should try to seperate them with a '-'.
Greetz
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-23 19:33
The hyphen is NOT treated the same as an underscore.
The underscore is NOT recognised as a word break.
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dudibob
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Posted: 2006-Jul-24 12:02
lol, I love the way your typing in this thread G1 
whichever one you choose, dots or hyphens, it's best to stick with one or the other for consistency I feel
as G1 says, red-widget and red_widget are seen as
red widget and
redwidget
Since people will search for red widget and not redwidget, you know what not use 
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info_vnetworking_nl
Joined: Jul 23, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Jul-24 16:31
I have to apologize for posting wrong information. Indeed the '-' and '_' ar not treated the same.
I found some more info about this on Google Groups. Search for underscore vs hyphens.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-24 20:39
That one catches a lot of people out, so no problem...
The reason that Google treats words with an underscore in them as being one whole word is to make it easier for computer programmers to make a search for computer programming samples. Programmers often name functions with underscores, and underscores often appear in many places in computer code.
Try searching for HTTP_HOST when looking for code examples for how to use Mod_rewrite on Apache for example. Using the underscore in the search and Google then treating it as an exact match to the text on the page is a great help there.
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neilt
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Posted: 2006-Jul-24 21:30
Why then when I search for a keyword phrase we have targeted does Google highlight both the words with - and _
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-24 21:56
Maybe the action has chnaged in recent weeks. Many Google features have recently changed. Some are bugs, others may be deliberate. It may be too early to tell.
A site:www.doman.com -inurl:www search lists many www pages for example (the search says to exclude them) - but those that are listed are all Supplemental.
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