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mdvaden
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 03:03
Commonly, I see people post to improve site content, and the PR does not matter, or does not matter as much.
My question is, if PageRank doesn't matter, what is it's matter, or purpose?
What would Google claim that it means?
If PR is a bait, what is it supposed to be luring in?
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 03:14
PR (PageRank), the number we see in the Google Toolbar is only one 'factor' or 'part' of the overall search engine algorithm. It's one of more than 100 factors that make up the search engine rankings.
Nowadays, links from other pages that share your same topic (Google LocalRank), freshness, and a lot of other factors are important now.
If you'd like to learn more, see this list of search engine ranking factors from SEOMoz.
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mdvaden
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 06:18
I'll make sure to read that tomorrow or the next day when I'm more alert. It's my final minutes of the night.
That still leaves a question of a sort. There are many factors, but those don't have a green meter from 1 to 10.
So of all the factors, why is the PR the one that gets the meter. And what is Google trying to do with that meter?
Google is too successful to do anything without a reason. A home page or browser page has very limited room. So everything there has to have a reason for it's existence.
The highlighter tool is there for a reason. The clear search history option is there for a reason.
So the little green 1 to 10 meter is there for a reason. It's "yelling" and it's "heralding" a message. It is a cause that's there to produce an effect.
What is it's cause and what is it's effect? Who is it's target and what response does it seek?
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galway
Joined: Apr 26, 2004
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 14:50
I believe that in the world of seo all things move forward, what is relevent today may be less so tomorrow.
The green bar used to be far more relevent than it is today, the score you see is not the score you get... but in the past it was closer.
There is much you don't see and the green bar has a visual statement from days gone by. It is still the subject of much debate though, also please remember that the green bar can be faked.
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excell
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 15:50
From a synical point of view, I propose that the google tool bar displaying the PR meter is a great way to get a great deal of information about users! I don't use it at all. Don't need to see PR to get my work done or to know who my competitors are or who to link from and to 
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 16:08
I propose that the google tool bar displaying the PR meter is a great way to get a great deal of information about users!
Yes, it is. Google uses it to track your activity and get other information from you and which sites you visit.
I uninstalled the Google Toolbar a few years ago.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Oct-09 16:12
They can also track you from all of the adsense adverts that they serve you while you move from site to site...
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2006-Oct-10 13:30
That still leaves a question of a sort. There are many factors, but those don't have a green meter from 1 to 10.
So of all the factors, why is the PR the one that gets the meter. And what is Google trying to do with that meter?
The other factors do not get a graph because there are so many of them, your screen would be covered in small green graphs. (Not to be confused with small green giraffes - if you're seeing those, you're on your own.  )
PR was meant to be a "measure" of how important Google thought the page was. So, viewed as a trend, more is better, growing a graph is better than shrinking a graph.
Trouble is, when folks start chasing it, it artificially skews the end results - less worthy pages end up appearing to be more worthy, thus get a higher PR graph.
Plus, as mentioned, it's only one of the factors in ranking. The rest, besides filling your screen with funny little giraffes if we let them, , would give awy more about how Google has it's algorithm written.
...and that just ain't gonna happen...
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kotseo
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
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Posted: 2006-Oct-10 14:21
Forget page rank and make your site contents more relevant.This is that our site is responsible for rankings.
Page Ranks support u to get back link with other relevant sites nothing else.This is the scoring of web pages for google.
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mdvaden
Joined: Mar 07, 2004
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Posted: 2006-Oct-12 01:23
I believe that in the world of seo all things move forward, what is relevent today may be less so tomorrow.
The green bar used to be far more relevent than it is today, the score you see is not the score you get... but in the past it was closer.
There is much you don't see and the green bar has a visual statement from days gone by. It is still the subject of much debate though, also please remember that the green bar can be faked.
So in a way, you may be saying that the Google PR meter may fall by the wayside.
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know when Google started the PageRank system, or when the PageRank meter first appeared? Year?
[ Message was edited by: g1smd 10/11/2006 06:27 pm ]
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