alindo
Joined: May 17, 2002
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Posted: 2006-Dec-10 08:40
Now our site has PR 5, we want to encrease the PR to become 6, can you please advise what to do and what don't do it.
Thank you guys for help
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bhartzer
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Joined: Jun 08, 2000
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Posted: 2006-Dec-10 15:17
What you'll need is a link from a PR7 site to get a PR6. But the bigger question is, "why are you worried about PageRank?" PageRank really doesn't have anything to do with search engine rankings, so it's really not worth it to even know what your PR is.
I uninstalled the Google Toolbar a few years ago and haven't even bothered looking what my "PageRank is" because it really doesn't mean anything.
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alindo
Joined: May 17, 2002
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Posted: 2006-Dec-12 09:54
hello friend from my experience the bigger PR will encrease the visitor come to our site, I don't know if this not effect anymore
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quality-ins
Joined: Jan 18, 2001
# Posts: 360
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Posted: 2006-Dec-12 20:45
Hey bhartzer...
In light of the whole SEO picture...
Higher PR sites usually reign the search engine results. How can you say that PR doesn't count?
Sometimes blogs with high PR will kick my butt on some keywords, even though their site is not directly related to what my topic is about.
example:
In one of my main keywords, my competitor's site is PR7 and mine is PR5... There is NO chance of me getting ahead of this competitor. He's got more links back, and higher PR. I have much more content than he does. He's been more clever in developing linking relationships though.
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lauraddirectnet
Joined: Dec 01, 2006
# Posts: 27
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Posted: 2006-Dec-13 21:02
Hello,
I am interested in knowing the outcome of this debate. One would assume higher PR would be better. As far as I know you are right. Higher PR means better search results!
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2006-Dec-14 12:22
Higher PR no longer means higher search results per se.
If you have a PR4 or above, you can carry out an effective SEO campaign. The fact that many of the top results are occupied by higher PR sites doesn't necessarily mean that the high PR got them there.
You need to realise that a high ranking site will attain a higher PR the longer it stays high ranking because it is more likely that people will link to it.
All high PR sites rank highly = untrue
All high ranking sites are high PR = untrue
More important than PR is LR (local Rank) if you have a high PR but low LR you will never appear in the SERPS.
Ever heard of LR? Probably not because it's not shown in the Google toolbar. Nor do they show the other 100+ factors that gathered together determine your rank in the SERPS.
Don't waste time chasing PR, it can (and normally does) create many more problems than it solves.
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lauraddirectnet
Joined: Dec 01, 2006
# Posts: 27
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Posted: 2006-Dec-14 16:44
I will definitly have to look into the LR, thanks for the tip! Where do you check this?
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
# Posts: 2061
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Posted: 2006-Dec-14 17:35
Try here for starters.
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kaulbr
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
# Posts: 275
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Posted: 2006-Dec-15 15:10
Link doesn't work. Could you please repost?
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2006-Dec-15 15:56
[link]
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lauraddirectnet
Joined: Dec 01, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Dec-15 21:14
Is there a site that has how to determine LR? I am intrigued by this!
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animated3d
Joined: Dec 22, 2005
# Posts: 443
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Posted: 2006-Dec-16 00:16
"If you have a PR4 or above, you can carry out an effective SEO campaign."
thats right from my experience even with big competition keywords, sites with just a PR4 can rank better with the right optimization.PR is for Inbound links and those links are a part of ranking well not 1 in many other factors that determine your site's SERP.
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2006-Dec-16 09:15
>>Is there a site that has how to determine LR? I am intrigued by this!
Sorry but no.
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excell
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Joined: Mar 19, 2001
# Posts: 14513
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Posted: 2006-Dec-17 00:51
I tend to go with the school of thought that chasing PR is not where you should focus your efforts. Link Popularity is only one aspect considered when the search engines weight up what is important.
Focusing on providing excellent content for your visitors will result in more benefit than worrying about a flakey little graph or having gazillion link backs. How do you know if those multiple links are even being taken into account?
Attention should be paid to what Google has to say about the topic of links. They have always given an alert to bad linking practices such as linking to "bad neighbours" or link exchange programs and always encouraged the development of quality accessible content.
They refine their algorithms constantly and seem quite pleased with their latest efforts in regards to link handling.
Take a read here - from the Official Google Blog:
Building link-based popularity
To sum up, even though improved algorithms have promoted a transition away from paid or exchanged links towards earned organic links, there still seems to be some confusion within the market about what the most effective link strategy is. So when taking advice from your SEO consultant, keep in mind that nowadays search engines reward sweat-of-the-brow work on content that bait natural links given by choice.
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2006-Dec-17 12:29
That's rounded this post off nicely - Thanks Excell.
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excell
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Joined: Mar 19, 2001
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Posted: 2006-Dec-17 13:53
Yes, indeed - it is the old sweat-of-the-brow that seems to have always worked (stands the test of time) and ultimately / hopefully always will.
I'd rather do that than chase algos and PR any day - but then - I'm not a maths person!
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spacemansteve
Joined: Aug 15, 2006
# Posts: 5
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Posted: 2006-Dec-21 19:37
Here's something I noticed recently:
I added some great content to one site I have that has a PR8.
I added the same content to another site (still relevant), but with PR7 the same day. Both have updating daily sitemaps.
The new content on the PR8 site is drenched in traffic. The same content on the PR7 sees 1/100 of the traffic.
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
# Posts: 2061
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Posted: 2006-Dec-21 19:42
Probably because Google will have issued a duplicate content penalty to one of the sites and will not be serving it in the SERPs.
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