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A question about article submit (In: Directories and Link Building)
Direct links vs Relative Links (In: Google)
any rules for article post and blog post. (In: General Search Engine Optimization)
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Ron of Japan
Joined: Sep 28, 2001
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Posted: 2007-Jun-01 08:22
I realize a natural link which appears in an article is worth more than a link on a link directory page but what if the article is created for the sole purpose of higher ranking.
There are a lot of people creating articles and offering them to webmasters as "content" for free. The only catch, you have to link to a certain site "mentioned" in the article. I admit this is a step up from a link directory but it is still artificial. What is more, a lot of those articles are duplicate content.
A lot of articles appear on what I call "article sites" and can easily be spoted. People say a one-way link won't hurt you. I kind of question that. But on the other hand, if this sort of linking is considered spam than your could competitors could do you in. Google says competitors can't hurt you. So I kind of have to scratch my head on this one.
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friendlyfrank
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Jun-03 17:25
very nice post.. I am really curious to see what the guur's have to say now.. 
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2007-Jun-03 20:39
Article Farms are mostly just Link Farms with even more junk in them.
Don't get involved. They will get whats coming to them eventually.
Don't be there when it happens.
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SportsGuy
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Joined: Aug 30, 2002
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Posted: 2007-Jun-04 15:56
A lot of articles appear on what I call "article sites" and can easily be spoted.
...which is precisely why I advise people to create content for their own site and to avoid article sites - don't submit to them, don't use content from them.
It's really very simple:
One of the most importat factors in ranking well remains unique content.
So, if unique content is important, how the heck is an article that's published on hundreds of other sites going to benefit you?
It won't.
Those places thrive due to the vast amounts of mis-information that's floating around and because folks are willing to believe, and act on, the myriad get-rich-quick schemes that float by every day.
"Link exchanges boost rankings!"
"Articles boost rankings!"
"Hidden text boosts rankings!"
"Stuffing the tags boost rankings!"
"Holding the shift key and scratching your nose boosts rankings!"
Notice how smoothly that last one rolled off my finger tips?
It's because it's too easy to make up absolute non-sense, post it somewhere and walk away.
Now, I'm sure, at some point in the future, someone will find this post, review that list and think they've found the Holy Grail.
Hello? Future-reader, YOU HAVE NOT FOUND THE HOLY GRAIL OF RANKINGS - skip that list above as it's all garbage. 
You want to know what boosts rankings?
Unique Content
Build it, users will appreciate it and reward you with a growing list of useful inbound links. In time, it pays off.
Articles, IMO, like so many things, are a waste of your time.
But hey, if YOU want to waste your time with them, it'll just make it easier for folks like me to get rankings for my own projects while you're off chasing the next white elephant...
...WAIT! There goes one now - better get moving. I hear that "rubbing a dog's chin from left to right helps boost rankings"...
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friendlyfrank
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Jun-04 19:40
Which brings me to this question...
one of my site got PR3 'doing somewhat' good due to links from articles sites. I recently moved to a new domain.. and using a redirect from that PR3 old site (about 1400 links 70% from article sites). Should I just trash the old domain and links and start fresh with a new one ?
I did submit about 3-4 articles even for the new one..
but hope that wont hurt much..
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2007-Jun-04 20:29
IN all likelihood, things will be just fine.....
....until Google and the engines decide to chase down and discount links form articles. IF we ever see that happen, those links will become mostly useless to you. No good for propping up the site in rankings, but still potentially a way to gain traffic.
One approach might be to keep things goign as they are for now. Work on continually creating unique content for the site, then in time, remove the 301 and let things settle out on their own.
With enough unique content, the site will stand on it's own, and attract it's own inbound links form various sources.
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friendlyfrank
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Jun-04 21:09
Hi SportsGuy,
I can take a brave stand. Acutually all the content I have there are the articles I sent to isnare and ezine guys.
I first put that up on my site and then submitted to isnare.
* I have just deleted those one's and put up another 5 unique pages.
* I have also brought down the 301 until I hear from you.
* This is just a place holder. I have a brilliant site coming up. I am sure I can get some very good links as well. The new domain ends with .ca and I have 2 links going to the new site. One topical , and another from a govt. site.
My only concern so far is I will be sandboxed.
Should I start from a clean slate then ?
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2007-Jun-04 21:28
Don't sweat the sandboxing - if it happens, it happens - keep creating the content and growing the good links and you'll pop out the other side stronger for it.
As for turning off the 301 redirect - no need to do that, I don't think.
...unless you feel the inbound links are form bad neighbors - then yeah, kill them off.
If you feel the links pointed at the new domain are acceptable, leave the 301 up. That's your call base don your plans.
As of right now, I do not believe Google is specifically targeting the article sites. If a site is a bad neighbor, yeah, it'll get targeted and the links value to you will be nullified, but again, don't sweat it too much.
As for starting fresh, again, that's all you frank. I'm not delving deep into the project so I don't know everything needed to offer specific advice.
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friendlyfrank
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Jun-04 22:05
Thanks so much! I feel much better now -lol
98% of the links are from junk article sites. 2% from good ones but I think I go to them again with a complete unique article for them only. Also, if sandboxing happens - it happens. I am sure a good site will come out of it eventually. Thanks for all your help.
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