friendlyfrank
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Posted: 2007-Jun-26 16:36
Hi There,
One of my site has been with the same host for the last 6 years. But for the last one year my current hosted site is down a lot and the service is getting inferior. I have read in many places that moving to new host can sometimes negatively effect ranking. I am in top 3 at the moment.
Is that the case ? How can I prevent it ? All page names will be the same, just that i want to change host. I can even go with a static ip or something like that.
Thanks so much in advance.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Jun-26 23:42
If you make the move in the correct manner, there will be no change in your rankings or traffic.
Put the site online at the new hosting server. Move the DNS to point the domain name at the new hosting. Wait a week for the domain name to resolve to the new hosting for everyone worldwide. Take the old site down at the old hosting.
Job Done.
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mj1256
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Posted: 2007-Jun-27 00:50
your sites benefit from age is associated with the domain, not the servers IP. I do it all the time, no problem.
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2007-Jun-27 15:45
Yep, and many reputable hosting companies will actually move everything over for you.
Just make sure, as g1 outlined, to properly manage the DNS of the domain - you can easily manage that yourself.
If your new host offers to move things over, be 100% clear with them they are to copy the files over to the new server only; they are NOT to remove anything completely form the old server (you'll be giving them access to the server to manage this transfer).
It's a bit of a pain to set things up on two servers at the same time, but better in the long run and saves you sitting up all night fixing errors if something gets missed and you only find it when you change the DNS...
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 2007-Jun-27 16:41
Thanks guys. Any good company I can go to ?
also how to this ? is there a setting or something ?
>>manage the DNS of the domain - you can easily manage that yourself. ?
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2007-Jun-27 16:57
>>manage the DNS of the domain - you can easily manage that yourself. ?
This assumes you have an account set up somewhere to mange your domains.
I have an account at GoDaddy and I manage all my domains through that account. I can set the nameservers, change DNS settings, etc.
This is different from a hosting account somewhere. This is strictly an account to manage my domains. (I just happen to have a dedicated server with them, though, so I manage everything through one account.  )
I'm not suggesting you move to GD, here, either. On a number of occasions I've sought to move away form them - lately, they haven't upset me, but then again, I haven't called them lately...LOL
Their product seems stable enough, but their customer service blows, at the best of times. ...and I pay for a dedicated server, too... 
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Jun-28 01:47
Make sure the new hosting is in the right country for what you want to do.
Not all companies host where you might think they do.
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 2007-Jun-30 21:58
Great. One last question.. if i sign up for a new company and as soon as i change the nameserver to the new hosting, all will propogate to the new site in 24-48 hours. so do i still need to leave the old site intact for 7 days. if yes, i hope google will know i moved and not penalize me for dup content. is there also a script or tag i need to use ? Very helpful- thanks again.
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excell
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Posted: 2007-Jun-30 22:41
The only reason to leave the files on the old server to allow for propogation of the website is to extend a courtesy to ISPs that do not refresh their cache quickly.
Google is quick to pick up new things, so I wouldn't worry about that... There is just that transition time that you need to be in control of... I say 7 days is ample - if anyone is lagging after that - too bad.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Jun-30 22:45
I recently had DNS take nearly seven days to resolve to the new host for some users.
I always recommend leaving the old site up, on the old hosting, for at least a week.
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 2007-Jul-01 01:02
I see, thanks sooooo much!!
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blackspot
Joined: Jul 04, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Jul-07 03:07
ya - at least a week
DNS is basically your only concern other than databases
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mj1256
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Posted: 2007-Jul-07 04:53
just an fyi
i've changed a dozen sites in the last 4 months
namesecure: 7 to 10 days
networksolutions: 2 hours or less
does anyone have propagation times by company
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excell
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Posted: 2007-Jul-07 17:24
the problem doesn't necessarily occur with the hosting company, but rather, by the viewers ISP. i.e. I can change DNS and see it instantly along with "most" other people, but not everyone else in to world can - it depends on their own isps.
If I am incorrect - then YUP - what is happening between the host and the registry?
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mj1256
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Posted: 2007-Jul-07 18:40
Sir, you are correct, I've had developers working on a site from the other side of the country who saw the propagation hours and days before I
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