deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-15 07:54
Hello,
I want to buy links for site, which deals in watches. The sites should have minimum 4 PR.
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2007-Sep-15 14:41
Can you explain exactly why you would want to BUY links?
Can you explain what you think that will DO for your site?
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9172007
Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 02:21
Is this Deepak Sarin?
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deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 05:53
No. This is Deepak Kumar
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deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 05:55
Actually, I want to increase PR for the site. It will happen if my site gets linked to higher PR sites.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 11:12
What do you think that just boosting your PR will do for your traffic?
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deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 12:37
My site is doing already well, but some competition sites have better rankings due to having greater PR. That is why i am interested in buying some good links.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 12:45
Why do you feel that your ranking will increase if you increase PR?
Do you think that having greater PR will bring you more visitors?
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deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 13:17
I have analyzed some higher ranked sites on the basis of various ranking factors. I found two major crucial factors i.e. domain name and PR, due to which my site is not getting ranked on top 3 postions in Google. However many says that it is not wise to buy some text links on high PR Web sites. But once i want to see the results by doing this.
[ Message was edited by: deepak6991 09/18/2007 05:59 am ]
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mj1256
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 17:18
google does not permit the buying of links for PR. if they detect it, and they very well may, the result could be that your site is banned. Did you know that google actually has a do not index this link tag for paid links.
Awefully risky experiment.
increasing PR will not effect traffic, bounce or conversion rates.
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kynduvme
Joined: Apr 18, 2001
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 18:17
i have noticed that all of my competition who is ranking are using paid links and have been for a long time. While this may be against google current ranking guidelines, it is still working for some. If you are worried about losing your main site if google detects you, why not try it with a secondary domain to protect your main one.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Sep-18 22:47
How can you be sure that "PR" and "domain name" are the two major factors? There are more than 100 factors involved. Some people estimate there are closer to 200 factors.
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kynduvme
Joined: Apr 18, 2001
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Posted: 2007-Sep-19 04:37
it is obvious to me that the difference in my industry between sites placing high and those that arent is directly related to Pagerank and back links in addition to using best seo practices, domain name doesnt appear to carry much weight. It is a complicated algorythm however..
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deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-20 05:28
Yes, that's right but at the same time i dont think site can be banned even after detection, because there is not always a single reason of site being linked.
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mj1256
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Sep-20 05:59
can you answer g1smd question?
How can you be sure that "PR" and "domain name" are the two major factors?
deepak6991, yes a site can be banned after detection and for any single or multiple reason they want. Its their search engine and their rules. being indexed on a search engine is a privilege, not a right.
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deepak6991
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Sep-20 14:11
I did exhaustive comparision between different competion sites and my site for more than 40 factors then i realized that these are two major factors where my site is not stronger, but of course I can't be sure.
If you dont mind can you give any example site which is banned
[ Message was edited by: deepak6991 09/20/2007 06:29 am ]
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mj1256
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Sep-20 22:36
thats tough to do as once its banned it does not appear in a search engine any more. when this happens, you can try to correct the issue tht got you banned and then rsubmit to the search engine again, or, in many cases, you need a whole new URL. There are some posts here about how people had bought new URL's that still had the penalties of the original website attached to them and had a very difficult time with indexing.
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yesmedicine
Joined: Oct 08, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Oct-08 17:53
As i see, greater PR will not bring you more visitors!
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Hampstead
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2007-Oct-14 19:01
PR is of very little importance. When a site is well optimised and appears high in the SERPs for a while, it will naturally attract links which will subsequently raise PR.
You cannot tell by analysing the sites which came first, the high ranking or the PR. Nor can you ascertain in which order is the cause and effect.
You need to worry more about LR, but you have no way of knowing what that is for each individual site. In fact chasing PR often results in a lowering of your LR (possibly to zero). In that way, a PR9 site will not appear in the top 1000 results.
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kynduvme
Joined: Apr 18, 2001
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Posted: 2007-Oct-15 03:25
it is pretty obvious that sites ranking above others in competetive markets have a higher PR. How can you say it has no importance when it so clearly does? and if you had a pr9 site you could optimize it quite easily to rank for just about anything you want.
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