mysweetdreamsbaby
Joined: Oct 26, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Oct-26 23:57
Hi there! Just a quick question and any basic advice that can be given would be really helpful. My website has been about a page rank 3 forever. Fluctutates occasionally to a 4 which is great but mostly stays at a 3. Recently though it dropped to a 2 which worries me a little. Sales are up, so I am not TOO concerned, but would rather see my page rank going up than down.
So, could a few of you look at my site quickly and tell me if you see any glaringly obvious reasons that my page rank is dropping? I would REALLY appreciate that. I know all the basics and feel like I have a pretty SEO friendly site, but it bums me out that page rank is dropping.
One thing I am wondering about is the link swapping. I am using link manager and wonder if that is dinging me on page rank. Would I be out of my mind to ditch link swapping altogether? I have heard that advice from some but it scares me. Please share your thoughts!!
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 10/15/2008 05:50 pm ]
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2007-Oct-27 00:14
Google recently dropped many sites involved with "link schemes" and especially "paid links" down a notch or two.
The SEO part of the web is alight with the howls of protest from those that failed to heed warnings over the last 18 months or more.
Now that the hammer has dropped, they act all surprised and outraged...
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mysweetdreamsbaby
Joined: Oct 26, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Oct-27 00:58
Good to know-news to me since I don't stay on top of these things. I am using link manager just as an easy way of adding links, not to be a link farm. Would you suggest doing away with links altogether though?
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Oct-27 01:27
Link to useful and relevant resources, ones that complement your website and which your visitors would also find useful.
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mysweetdreamsbaby
Joined: Oct 26, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Oct-27 01:57
See, I guess I feel like I have done that, only swapped with sites that are relevant and stuff. Link swapping just seems like such a waste of time for me. Either way, I am going to go in right now and take down the link manager program-thanks for you help!
Any other advice keep it coming!
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beth_lk
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Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Posted: 2007-Oct-27 06:35
when I viewed your site tonight your PR was 1. ( I viewed it through IE. )
Taking down the link program is a great first step, but sadly it often takes time to recover from a google "verdict" 
While you are in your sites recovery process, maybe consider adding some topic related content to your site, being as they will be new pages, google may cache them and you can bring visitors in to the site through the new pages - like baby products recalled, how to safely use a car seat, stroller, etc etc.
Also I only looked at a few of your pages, but your meta tags are not SEO friendly. Your repeated use of the word "mom" is far outside the guidelines/rules. This forum has lots of tag info for you to study.
I am not seeing any heading tags - such as H1 and so on, and your ALT tags need some work as well.
I would work on these things and then re post this site for a site review in the review thread here.
You have a good site, it needs some work and I think you need some more knowledge ( we all do lol ) I hope you keep striving at this site 
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mysweetdreamsbaby
Joined: Oct 26, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Oct-28 02:26
Wow thanks for all the advice Beth! That is helpful-I have always felt like my site was well SEOed. Gonna do a little reading and see what I can improve on. I appreciate the advice!
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cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
# Posts: 203
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Posted: 2007-Oct-29 21:24
Sorry to jump in here but our site dropped from PR 6 to PR 5 and I too am wondering what is going on. We have a link exchange page yet they are all with relevant sites. Any advice would be appreciated and if you could look at my site that would be great. Thanks. www.cfpa.com
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2007-Oct-30 02:17
If you really want basic advice on pagerank, take this:
stop worrying.
Pagerank is only one of many Google factors; it's serps that matter - and I mean keyword serps, not webmaster searches.
If they produce results, forget pagerank.
And if they don't, why waste energy on pagerank?
ranking matters - page rank does not
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Prowler
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Joined: Aug 14, 2000
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Posted: 2007-Oct-30 07:16
cfpa - You would do well to get it from the horse's mouth - from Google itself. They have an excellent system of providing details - from crawl stats to the top search queries. Go to [link]
You need to have a Google account and you will be asked to authenticate your association with the site.
Small changes in PR like that of yours is nothing abnormal. You might find the answer from Google Webmaster Tools.
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sem4u
Joined: Dec 16, 2003
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Posted: 2007-Oct-30 09:55
A lot of sites have dropped a PR point. It isn't much to worry about IMO. It looks like Google have adjusted the PR scale a little.
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cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Oct-30 14:17
Our biggest competitor and I fight for the top 2 spots in Google for the keyword "pharmaceutical training" and we held the tops 2 spots for 2 months and now they are above us. Since they are still PR6 and we were dropped to PR5, I'm wondering if this is the reason.
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mj1256
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Oct-30 14:26
there are so many factors that you may never know
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cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Oct-30 14:58
What does the Distribution column mean in Google Webmaster tools. It says:
The PageRank of your pages in Google:
Distribution:
High: About 2%
Medium: About 3%
Low: About 90%
PageRank not yet assigned About 5%
I hear what you all are saying about PR not being that important and yet we're ranking lower for our keywords and I'm wondering if this isn't the reason. Nothing else has changed. And what can I do to fix this?
Thanks
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Prowler
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Posted: 2007-Nov-01 15:17
When I checked you are at the top for "pharmaceutical training". I know several instances where a site with lesser PR ranks well above a higher PR site. The PR distribution simply means that 90 % of your pages have low PR while 2 % have high PR value assigned by Google.
If I were you, I would spend more time on the Links -> Pages with external links as well as internal links. It may have the answer you are looking for. Now Google shows the data over a period of time. They keep adding new features in the Webmaster Tools.
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cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
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Posted: 2007-Nov-01 19:42
I just deleted cookies and we did drop to 4th position. We have dropped off of page 1 for most of our keywords. It coincides with the PR change so I'm not sure what to do. Should I take off the links on our resources page?
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Prowler
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Posted: 2007-Nov-03 06:41
May be you have a reason to be concerned about some link in your resource page which is probably in a "bad neighborhood".
There is a quick and dirty way to find out. Check all the outgoing links thoroughly. Look at their PR. If any of them has been penalized, you will have to remove that.
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jeany1114
Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Nov-03 17:12
Check the status of the outbound links (to know if there are deadlinks) and reciprocal links (to make sure that your link is still up in other sites)
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beth_lk
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Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Posted: 2007-Nov-14 18:07
Is there a quick way to do what prowler and jeany suggests?
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
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Posted: 2007-Nov-14 21:50
Yes, run Xenu Linksleuth over your site and check the report very carefully.
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