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mattpfau
Joined: Dec 06, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Dec-06 19:06
I have already optimized my title tag, copy and keyword phrases, applied to the directories, started the long process off obtaining links, and now what can I do. SEO fascinates me and I want to learn the coplicated stuff like- "how much should i spend on ad words so my natural search results stay high?" or like "what are the best ways to get one way quality links" And when placing keyword phrases in my sites hm pg do they have to be at the top to carry wait.
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mo007
Joined: Dec 13, 2005
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Posted: 2007-Dec-06 20:28
Just keep reading in this forum and you'll find a lot of useful posts, if you have a specific question feel free to ask.
Good luck
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SportsGuy
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Joined: Aug 30, 2002
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Posted: 2007-Dec-06 22:20
SEO fascinates me and I want to learn the coplicated stuff like- "how much should i spend on ad words so my natural search results stay high?"
Spending on Adwords has no bearing at all on your organic rankings, so consider that "complicated" bit covered. 
As for building links, here's some useful info...
Here are some useful tips to get you started down the path to finding some of those much-sought-after oneway, inbound links. It takes a lot of work, but if you manage to get even a few of these links for your site it can make a big difference.
1 - inbound, one-way text links using good anchor text are your goal from an SEO perspective. (I’ll define everything below)
2 - DO NOT sweat page rank on the page linking TO YOU
3 - DO sweat that each page/site is topically related to you
4 - Try for these “golden boy” links from the major players in YOUR topical category - better 10 inbounds from related topic sites with a PR of zero, than 100 inbounds from unrelated, PR8 sites. (Think long-term when building links)
5 - one-way links are better than reciprocal links
6 - MOST sites will ask for a recip
7 - Recips are fine, but make sure where you are linking to offers something of value for YOUR users
8 - Recips can be good to bring in traffic - just be careful to take a look at who’s link to THEM - bad neighbors are not good…
9 - Avoid three-way or triangular linking - it’s crap and the engines assign no value to that junk anyway
10 - set a budget - get listed in the major directories, in the correct categories (search here - there’s been a lot of good directory lists posted lately)
11 - when approaching webmasters for a link request, show them respect and be patient. Use a professional approach and respect their right to ignore you completely - just move on. Send them an e-mail, make an effort to track down a contact name for the site and address it to a person. Follow up about a week later - leave it alone after that. (more below)
12 - Vary the anchor text in the text link and vary where users land - don’t just use your site’s name and drop everyone to the index page, in other words. Use keywords to direct people to relevant content within your site.
13 - Avoid link exchange programs, link farms, etc.
14 - Buying links is fine, but the engines like long-term links, so after a few months of paying, when you decide you’re done, the link disappears - so goes any value. Plus, the engines are getting savvy to how & where folks buy links these days. Buy links for traffic, not SEO.
15 - Avoid site-wide links, too - some places offer to put your link into their nav bar and spread it across all their site’s pages - Google, etc. discount any value from these - do this enough and you might trigger a link spam trigger, too…
DEFINITIONS:
One-way link - points from some other website to your website
Reciprocal link - they point to you, you point to them
Anchor text - the actual text used which is linked to you - it matters - good anchor text will use a relevant keyword where possible and land the clicker directly on the related content
Sample of a link request letter:
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Hi (webmaster’’s name),
My name is (your name) and I work with (website’s name) to help spread the word about their great (free products/services/content, etc.). I was hoping you’d consider mentioning us to your users or linking to us on your (provide the webmaster with the specific page you’d like to see your link shown on, include the section, if necessary - be specific). Please find a brief overview of what we offer visitors below. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via e-mail or with a quick call. I am a real person and will reply quickly. Thanks again for your time & consideration. (Your name) (website URL) (e-mail address & phone number) __________________________________________
Brief run-down on what the site’s about and the value it offers.
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Now, you’ll need to research the site a bit to try to dig up a name to address this to. I use the following method:
1 - I go to GoDaddy.com
2 - type in the URL for the site you want to request the link from
3 - it’ll say the domain is taken, but offer a link to “More information” - click it
4 - Enter the code presented to you and click again
5 - IF they are not paying for private registration of the domain name, you should be able to now see contact information such as a person’s name, address, e-mail addy, phone number, etc. NOTE: This assumes THEY entered real data and it does not work 100% of the time.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2007-Dec-06 22:35
Do be aware that most of the mails that you send out looking for a link may very well be deleted as spam by the recipient.
That means you need to choose carefully who you might contact. You do not want to start building a reputation as a spammer.
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Prowler
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Posted: 2007-Dec-07 05:36
Excellant suggestions SportsGuy. Good job. 
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addy999
Joined: Nov 27, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Dec-07 16:17
Just be aware that do not make spamming other wise the links will be deleated just contact the write person.
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addy999
Joined: Nov 27, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Dec-07 16:17
Just be aware that do not make spamming other wise the links will be deleated just contact the write person.
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 12/07/2007 12:24 pm ... Reason: Link Drop Removed Again. ]
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sem4u
Joined: Dec 16, 2003
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Posted: 2007-Dec-07 16:20
Does that include forum spamming, addy999?
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beth_lk
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Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Posted: 2007-Dec-07 18:53
addy - your link is allowed in your profile only.
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jadvd
Joined: Dec 08, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Dec-08 14:59
If you want to view your website on top of the Search Engine Ratings then you have to manage your SEO operation properly. It will help you to get more traffic on your website. To get the best result from SEO you have to implement all the SEO techniques properly as well as you
have to know how and where you require these techniques on your website.
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mattpfau
Joined: Dec 06, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Dec-08 18:54
Thanks for the insightful info, I appreciate the help. Happy Holidays.
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