friendlyfrank
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Posted: 01/27/2008 08:56 am
I have a renowed website that is doing quite well on Google. Now I am promoting another site. Both site's registrar info is different in all ways.
I placed a link on my 'old establish site' main page to divert traffic to 'new one'. The reason is I WANT people to go and see my new site Products. This of course also gives my new site a boost as a link from the main page at the same time.
Both products are different in both sites but the industry and topic is the same. In other words, topical sites. Can this get me penalized or something in any way ? Thanks
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beth_lk
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Posted: 01/27/2008 03:53 pm
are they both on the same server?
I asked this same question moons ago and was told it is a big no no.
But I did ask it in kind of a different form. I said can I place a link to B. site from my A. site - however I was not closing down my A. site ( from your other post http://www.searchengineforums.com/apps/searchengine.forums/action::thread/forum::seo-general/thread::1201465998/ I think you are, at least in time ? )
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 01/27/2008 04:57 pm
No Beth. The sites will be with different hosting companies.
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kynduvme
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Posted: 01/28/2008 08:25 am
This is a perfectly legit business practice you would not be penalized for it.
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 01/28/2008 12:03 pm
Thanks!
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beth_lk
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Posted: 01/28/2008 07:54 pm
This is a perfectly legit business practice you would not be penalized for it.
Really???
Can you please explain in more detail why not?
Is it due to two different servers?
I was told never to link from one of my sites to another.
I am not "challenging" this response, I am truly wanting to learn more 
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kynduvme
Joined: Apr 18, 2001
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Posted: 01/29/2008 09:10 am
No Problem Beth,
Firstly, He is not doping something to deliberately trick the search engines which is a good start(thats not to say that you can have good intentions but do something that penalizes you, this can and does happen)
Second, Having them on two separate servers and not having duplicate content will protect him. I am assuming of course that the content will not be duplicate. If anything this will strengthen rankings by having relevant links if the prducts are related.
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 01/29/2008 10:09 am
There's really no problem with using a site or two of your own to promote other sites of yours; indeed, you'd be unwise not to!
Being on a different server, of course, makes no odds at all; if two sites are indexed and interlink, it's the links and the content that matter, and changing servers never fooled google for a second (no, I'm not suggesting you were!).
I routinely do this - just as I would use my own bricks'n'mortar businesses to promote each other; why wouldn't I?
Provided, of course, you don't go over the top, especially with non-related sites, and you don't set up a 'link farm' involving loads of sites.
As a general policy, I remove most interlinking once the sites stand on their own three feet, to avoid any possible misunderstanding - or having some spiteful jerk try and get me delisted - but even then, if I missed a couple, I'd not worry; SEO does not require paranoia about SEs
Pedants may say this practice is against Google's guidelines - but that's over-sensitive; just as Google won't ban a site for having a single 'non-related reciprocal', so they won't worry about a few 'family links' - just don't go over the top. Google have plenty enough to do with career and industrial interlinkers and paidlinks, before they even consider picking on a few 'own site promotions'. Google isn't that small minded.
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g1smd
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Posted: 01/29/2008 12:07 pm
A few is OK, a lot is not. No-one knows quite where the line is.
Just be careful.
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beth_lk
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Posted: 01/29/2008 07:52 pm
Thanks to all
I now have a much clearing understanding of this.
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 01/29/2008 09:13 pm
My scenario:
- Totally unique content on each site
- Different Domain owners - one myself - one my wife. different emails too.
- Both sites related - infact same industry but different products. one Widgets A - Second Widgets B. both competition thoug.
- Different servers and hosting providers.
- visitor come to site A and see a link on main page for site B - almost 80% click on that link and jump to site B - since higly relevant.
Orginal site very trusted, organic, been in business for 8 years, almost always ranked in the top 5 for the last 6 years and never ever spammed
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Quadrille
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Posted: 01/30/2008 01:40 am
Orginal site very trusted, organic, been in business for 8 years, almost always ranked in the top 5 for the last 6 years and never ever spammed
That's the key: regardless of how much you want the new site to do well, NEVER risk the kind of quality you describe above: it's never, ever, worth the risk.
And I've seen it done, on many occasions!
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 01/30/2008 08:39 am
but Quadrille where am I going wrong ? I honestly want the users to benefit and they are . It's like any other company. Sometimes you click on a link and it opens another site on another domain. Now what's wrong with that ? Also, there is no connection between the sites (even though it's a perfect combination).
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Quadrille
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Posted: 01/30/2008 10:28 am
I don't think you are going wrong. but as G1 said "No-one knows quite where the line is."
I do not know what you mean by "there is no connection between the sites (even though it's a perfect combination). " but in the situation you describe, one site linking to one other, then I see no problem.
As one single event, no worries at all. As an occasional act - almost certainly fine. As a 'general practice', however, it is inadvisable to risk an established site to aid a new one.
In general, links should be appropriate and useful to your visitors, not defined by your needs. Sorry if my advice was not clear.
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friendlyfrank
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Posted: 01/30/2008 04:00 pm
by connection i meant registration or isp hosting connection.
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Quadrille
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Posted: 01/30/2008 04:27 pm
Some argue that Google spends it's resources looking at site registration and the like; that may be so, though I'm not convinced (except maybe with persistent offenders).
Fact is, if sites interlink, Google does not need to look at anything except the linking pattern. At some point an alarm will be triggered. They really don't need to worry about hosting or IP or registration to spot a link pattern. That. after all, is what SEOs are working at - just google can use it in reverse, too 
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dapyxxx
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Posted: 02/01/2008 05:02 pm
I often build some satelites websites that are going to promote the main website that is the biggest. That is a strategy used widely! SO dont worry!
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