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8686735
Joined: Jan 29, 2008
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Posted: 2008-Jan-29 15:47
Hi,
Can anyone advise me what might be the solution to a problem facing my site. Our domain is registered in the US & is hosted from there. I'm now living in the Philippines. I thought the site had good page one ranking in Google.com until I travelled to Las Vegas & looked up my site only to discover I could hardly find it in the search engine. Although the hosting is done from the US the site was submitted from the Philippines.
Can anyone offer any explanation & advise if there is any work around solution for us.
Thanks,
Barry
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2008-Jan-29 16:02
Where you live really does not matter; I'm in the UK, and most of my sites are registered and hosted in the US.
The only way it would matter is when a site has a country suffix (eg .co.uk or .ca or .es etc).
The site's place in the serps can *look* different in different Google searches (e.g. my sites look different in google.com, google.co.uk, and google.co.uk 'UK only').
The other factor is whether you are logged in to Google when you search. In Vegas, I'm guessing you were logged out!
So chances are, the site has not changed - but your viewpoint has!
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8686735
Joined: Jan 29, 2008
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Posted: 2008-Feb-01 09:51
Thanks for the reply but that's not really the solution. We're a dot com company, no country suffix. If we check google.com (NOT google.com.ph) from the Philippines we are shown in a totally different position than when the site is checked through google.com in the States. It's still the same case now even though we can't check from the US directly. If we check from here in the Philipines, one result, if we check through a proxy server in the States another totally. It's a strange situation. As I say all our hosting is done from America but we originally submitted the site from the Philippines. I wonder if google has some way of knowing this & thus partially blocking non US sites.
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2008-Feb-01 10:14
Are you quite sure you have used Google.com while 'logged out'?
Google does have many data centers, but I don't see why you would get a consistently different result by country.
Where the site is FTP'd from does not matter. Where it is hosted does.
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kynduvme
Joined: Apr 18, 2001
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Posted: 2008-Feb-01 16:55
I have the same issue with google india giving me great rankings for certain keywords but not on google USA where I actually need it. Very strange, there really is no solution or proper explanation.
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john_dush
Joined: May 07, 2000
# Posts: 144
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Posted: 2008-Feb-06 10:26
I have a similar problem with a site I've been optimizing.
Get this:
- .com domoain
- hosted in US
- Has a <meta http-equiv="content-language" content="en-US" /> tag in the head
- Has around 200+ backlinks and a PR3
BUT
- It is for a business in the Arab Emirates and has many English pages, but also French, Russian and Arabic pages.
- Google.ae sees the site riding high searching for English terms but is not anywhere for Google.com, not Msn or Yahoo.
- The competition on Google.com who are riding high have lower PR, less incoming link, less site content. I'm puzzled!
Can any of the expert shed any light?
Thanks
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8686735
Joined: Jan 29, 2008
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Posted: 2008-May-20 11:00
It's funny how on a forum with so many experts, no-one has a solution or work-around for this!
The problem is quite simple really. We check google.com from the Philippines, one result, we check google.com within the US or through a US proxy server (from the Philippines), another completely different result. Obviously google are penalising non-US companies, but since our site is registered and hosted in the US, how do they know???? Can google read logs on hosting accounts to detect from where you upload the web page?
If anyone can shed any light it would be helpful thanks 
BArry
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dudibob
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
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Posted: 2008-May-20 11:45
Google can't read your web logs as it would have to hack a server to do that 
It doesn't matter if your server is in your bedroom (physical location) it matters solely on the IP address, look at 1&1, they have servers in the UK and Germany but they all use German IP's.
@John - have you checked the location of the backlinks?
edit: btw - I consider Quadrille an expert
[ Message was edited by: dudibob 05/20/2008 04:02 am ]
[ Message was edited by: dudibob 05/20/2008 04:03 am ]
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2008-May-20 12:02
I think we'd need to see the URL - you've discounted all the 'general' theories, we need to get to specifics of your site.
There must be something that you are not telling us - not that you are concealing, simply something that has not appeared relevant, but obviously must be.
Put the URL in your profile, and we'll try searching from all over and see why it varies.
john_dush - you need to start a new thread; I only just saw your post, and I'm sure others are missing it, or not responding for fear of confusing this thread. It is a different problem to the central issue of this thread.
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Prowler
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Posted: 2008-May-21 07:13
In addition to the IP address of the server where your site is hosted, Google has access to the domain registration details. It may have a bearing too - although it is just one of the hundreds of factors.
Results can also vary due to localization of search results. A search done in San Jose, CA for a "New Home for Sale Maryland" will have different search results from a search done from Ellicot City, MD.
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8686735
Joined: Jan 29, 2008
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Posted: 2008-May-21 11:10
Thanks guys, appreciate your responses. We actually have many sites, some selling art, postcards & also affiliate links. I've listed just a few of them in my profile for people who are interested.
I'm trying to sort out the problems with the first two listed, the third one shown is a new site that I'll spend more time on when I get the chance
Thanks again
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nhd4me
Joined: Oct 14, 2007
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Posted: 2008-May-22 05:42
For my 2 cents .. I have had websites that rank differently depending on which country I am in ... I always thought it was to do with Google trying to 'localise' the search ... for example if you type 'car rental' into Google you will probably find the local website for the international companies (ie, in NZ you see avis.co.nz and in Australia we see avis.com.au)
I have found that I can get a better picture of my SERP ranking in other countries if I conduct the Google search, then manually edit the address bar ... ie,
"http://www.google.co.nz/search?so....."
become
"http://www.google.com/search?so....."
I have checked this against screen dumps from concurrent search's in the other countries and have found there is some variation but not as much. I put this down to the same reason I get one set of results from my computer in my office, but if I go down to another department I can get slightly different results ... my thinking is it depends which data centre the cached results are being obtained from???
please correct me if I am wrong ... if not, hope this helps
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Prowler
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Posted: 2008-May-22 09:27
There was a time when Google used to replicate the data across all its servers and at this time the results will fluctuate wildly. Now the results fluctuate within minutes in some cases all the time.
nhd4me - you are right.
When you want to look for the results of a particular country you can use the country in the parameter like so:
The above search is targeted at Google Germany.
Still it is not enough to check for localized results. You can't check for city.
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