telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/24/2008 02:11 am
Hello, this is my first post in this forum.
I have 3 websites under one hosting.Subdomains? well, godaddy calls it "Alias". The main site is say mydomain.com then I have 2 other websites, say newdomain1.com and newdomain2.com sharing the same hosting. May be a coincidence, but it seems that since I added these two domains several months ago, I have lost PR from 5 to 0 on mydomain.com. Could this be the reason?
Strange although PR is 0, the main website and associated pages are quite high up on many generally used keywords. Some are even No1. So is this green bar just for show?
Thanks T
|
 |
g1smd
Moderator
Joined: Jul 28, 2002
# Posts: 10178
|
Posted: 03/24/2008 12:16 pm
That's a classic Duplicate Content issue. You need for the other domains to issue a pure 301 redirect.
That's already been covered a few times here. Look at some of the old posts for some example code.
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/25/2008 12:26 am
Yes I do appreciate that, but domain alias doesn't seem to be. The other two websites are completely different and are not really sub domains off the 1st domain as both have their own .com domains, they just share the hosting of the 1st domain. For example if you go to www.newdomain1.com or 2 then it goes to www.newdomain1.com or 2. Is this ok?
Thing is it has not affected page popularity, just that green bar is down to 0?
|
|
carrot
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 6
|
Posted: 03/25/2008 10:02 am
I am new to the forum and just trying to understand this post. Doesn't green bar show what site was last 3-4 months! So are we talking PR or SERPS? Does green bar reflect PR or SERPS.
|
|
beth_lk
Insider
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
# Posts: 1068
|
Posted: 03/25/2008 06:58 pm
I am not 100% sure I am following this correctly - so I may give an off response.
If domain 1.com is linked to domain 2.com that can create a problem as well - being on the same server.
Or if you have dup content as G said - then that too could be your issue.
Also maybe you did something that the SE did not like on these pages - hence the change.
As to the green bar ( for carrot ) it is for PR ( page rank ).
Yes it ( the bar ) usually is 3+ months old.
And we should not put a lot of stock into the green bar, but yet if it makes a big change such as mark39 did, it is best to take a look around and see what happened.
Something did happen to create this change.
If you put the site in your profile, we can look at it and maybe see what is going on and help you out. 
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/26/2008 01:09 am
I have updated my profile. Any help would be be appreciated.
The 3 websites are not linked to each other and are completely different types. So no duplicate content. Just on the same server and web space hosting package.
Thank you for clarifying PR and SERPS. My PR was 5, now 0. SERPS does not appear to be affected.
Thanks T
|
|
g1smd
Moderator
Joined: Jul 28, 2002
# Posts: 10178
|
Posted: 03/26/2008 03:46 am
I misread your original post and thought it implied the three sites had the same content.
If they are all very different in topic, then there is no duplicate content issue - but interlinking sites that cover completely different topics can be a problem in, and of, itself sometimes.
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/27/2008 01:26 am
Yes, all are completely different. So having 3 sites on the same hosting shouldn't affect the PR of the primary site or indeed all 3 sites?
I rebuilt this site and optimized it. Been live for a couple weeks now.
|
|
Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 1064
|
Posted: 03/27/2008 03:18 am
Provided the sites follow SE guidelines, being on the same hosting will do no harm at all. Many believe that 'same hosting' can be a bit like a bad neighborhood; problems with one site are believed to spread to others.
carrot: The green bar is nothing to do with the serps at all; it is a measure of your page's 'link popularity' on a certain day 3-4 months ago. Nothing else.
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/27/2008 04:38 am
Thank you all. Hopefully since the rebuild and seo work I have done will show soon. T
|
|
dudibob
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
# Posts: 1423
|
Posted: 03/27/2008 04:46 am
not trying to stir anything here, but wouldn't a drop in PR indicate a link problem rather than hosting, especially if the sites aren't interlinking.
A drop in PR usually either means the link juice has been cut off (but the toolbar needs to update to realise this) or Google thinks your selling links. If your rankings and traffic remain the same I wouldn't worry too much
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/27/2008 11:14 am
Well most of the external links are still intact, but google only showing one for some reason. I have deliberately not inter-linked as all 3 cover completely different topics.
I wanted topic relative websites to link exchange with mine, but I as that damn PR bar is at 0 currently I am not having much luck. Bit like the chicken and egg. To get a good PR you need quality back links, to get good back links you need to show good PR or so it seems.
|
|
g1smd
Moderator
Joined: Jul 28, 2002
# Posts: 10178
|
Posted: 03/27/2008 06:08 pm
Make sure that the site is NOT being indexed as both www and non-www pages.
That can sometimes explain the symptoms you are seeing. One of those should be a 301 redirect.
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 03/28/2008 02:28 am
Yes I already have a 301 redirect to www in my .htaccess, however in my "google webmaster tools" account I have noticed that "Set preferred domain" has no preference. Is currently set to "Don't set an association". Do I need to change it here as well or will the 301 suffice?
|
|
Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 1064
|
Posted: 03/28/2008 02:59 am
The 301 will suffice, and is arguably the better solution, as it will work for ALL SEs. But setting the preference to match might just deliver Google serps with your site one nanosecond quicker, as G won't need to check for both.
I've never bothered 
|
|
g1smd
Moderator
Joined: Jul 28, 2002
# Posts: 10178
|
Posted: 03/28/2008 12:35 pm
Yes, the on-site redirect is all you need, but do make sure that when surfing the site that you cannot hit a redirect by using normal site navigation.
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 04/01/2008 01:45 am
Thanks to all for your input.
|
|
nhd4me
Joined: Oct 14, 2007
# Posts: 39
|
Posted: 04/01/2008 10:45 pm
Just to throw out some food for discussion, I notice that you have repeatedly used the little sun image as a bullet point highlighter.
Each occurance you have used a different 'title' and 'alt' tag which when combined with the actual text, makes it look a little to unnatural for my liking.
I could be way off, but why would the same image have so many different tags if not for the sole purpose of presenting to SE's.
I have no evidence either way on this one, but someone out there may have had similar experience?
(also ... same applies with 'red tick' on quick_view.htm)
|
|
Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 1064
|
Posted: 04/02/2008 01:02 am
<- ALT= hiddentext.
Oh dear.
|
|
telemark39
Joined: Mar 24, 2008
# Posts: 10
|
Posted: 04/02/2008 01:11 am
This has never crossed my mind. So many occurrences of an image on one page with different tags. It does look kinda suspecious and it cannot be helping.
I could rename every image, but I think I'll change it to ASCII character bullets instead.
Thank you for highlighting this.
|
|
