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langardmicro
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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Posted: 2008-Aug-23 10:31
Here's the situation:
I recently re-acquired a domain that I'd promoted successfully eight years ago (that I dumped six years ago for non-payment and which has, since that time, been trashed by amateurs or fools) and did the usual:
- Developed a completely new site with NONE of the old directory structure (since it was a complete abomination).
- Changed the Primary and Secondary Name Servers to ours
- Put the domain on our Apache servers and
- Installed a root-level .301 (/) to the new site
- Installed a .401 on the new site to redirect strays to it's index
My question is this:
There are links to the old site all over the Web (yes they survived the fools meddling with them), so what's Google's general turn-around time these days on .301s when the directory structure doesn't match anything previous?
While all the hits from the engines are landing on the new site's front page, I'm trying to get a handle on how long it'll take Google to deep crawl the entire new site, dump the old site and understand that the IBLs now apply to the new domain.
Am I looking at the same new-launch sandbox here or can I expect some small benefit from the old URLs as Google begins to understand that they don't exist anymore?
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langardmicro
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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Posted: 2008-Aug-24 23:28
Alright, let me make this really simple.
How long is it taking Google these days to index a 1000+ page, newly-launched site that has the benefit of a root-level .301 redirect from a successful legacy site?
Has anybody in this forum launched a new site in the last six months using a .301 from an old version (without the same directory structure)? If so, how long did your indexing take?
That's all I want to know.
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langardmicro
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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Posted: 2008-Aug-25 10:38
Forget it. I give up.
No wonder this forum is going to Hell in a hand basket. If I can't get an answer to a simple question like this within 24 hours, something is seriously wrong around here.
Either the Mods are sleeping, out to lunch or on vacation. The traffic to this board is getting weaker all the time and the hot threads are mostly about noxious, outdated topics like the silly importance of PageRank.
I like the pop-up advertising though, that always thrills me. The regulars in these forums over the years have generally been informed and helpful for the most part. That's not the case anymore.
After ten years in here, I can tell you boys and girls, I'm disappointed. None of your threads have any value anymore. They cannot sustain an interested audience of Web professionals and they don't have an ounce of spice, healthy disagreement or adversarial creativity anymore.
This forum has morphed into the Reader's Digest: It is, as Thornton Wilder once described, nothing but "a publication written by bores, for bores, about bores". To be truthful, I'm just bone-tired of the redundant pontification in this forum. A year-old post of mine still appears on the first page of the programming section. You think that's normal for a healthy bulletin board?
So why don't one of you Mods move this into the Members Lounge or just delete it for all I care. If you think this is intended to insult you, it is. So use the administrative board rules to quash it and be done with it.
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Dinkar
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Joined: Aug 12, 2001
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Posted: 2008-Aug-26 03:53
You have purchased this domain and created a different site there. So Google will consider it as a NEW site.
How long is it taking Google these days to index a 1000+ page, newly-launched site that has the benefit of a root-level .301 redirect from a successful legacy site?
If your current site is RELATED (similar topic) to the old site, then 301 is ok. Else setup a nice 404 page for old URLs.
timeline: As per your post, the current site is totally different from the old site. So if you use 301 redirect, you may NEVER get any good ranking in Google. Use 404 page for old urls and your site will be treated as clean new website.
HTH.
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