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CA was also were among the first to legalise pot for medical reasons, but like many of the the state laws we have enacted here i.e prop 187, the eradication of of Affirmative Action and several others we have overwhelmingly approved, the Feds have elected to step in and tried to deny our right to decide how to best govern the world's 7th largest economy.

I think we are powerful enough to say pi$$ off Feds, you are NOTHING without CA (well maybe Redmond might be of some import also)!

And you lay there thinking about the site you've been working on ... and you get up to "try out" something. ("What if I change the blue to grey ...?")

However with CA making these drugs freely available to the CA citizens, you can bet in 10 or 20 years CA will no longer be the 7th largest economy. It will be their undoing. The life of debauchery majorly caused the Roman Empire to fall—the same with CA. Learn from history!

Another thing, there is a member of my family who smokes the weed every day and has done for at least ten years (I mean that literally). In this time she has gained a first class degree (summa cum laude) in physics after graduating second overall in her year, this whilst raising a child, mind you. She then went on to do her doctorate after the university let her skip a year, putting her in the quick stream in her peer group of people who were clever in the first place. She has an IQ of around 165, which puts her way up in the top 1% of intelligent people on the planet. She is easily the smartest person I know, and as I say, she smokes the stuff every day.
Knowing this, I have no time for people who claim people who smoke weed are automatically lazy, unintelligent or wasting their lives - I know their claims are based on ignorance.
If anyone has any valid points about why cannabis is illegal and alcohol is, I'd love to hear them.

There are people that will always try to make smoking pot look harmless. Heck the cigarette companies have been doing that for a long time, making their product appear harmless and up until recently were fairly successful in convincing some. They point to George Burns and his long life span and his cigars. He's just an exception to tobacco smoke. Your family member is just the exception too.

I've seen people under the influence of pot and it isn't pretty nor are they safe from harm. They get real stupid because they are real high and their breath stinks to high heaven too—yuck.

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Good point! It would make sense to make them both illegal. They both do more damage than good in general.

Heavy marijuana use causes lung damage and cancer and a variety of other lung related problems similar to cigarettes (cigarettes would be illegal too). Alcohol is one of the leading problems of dangerous driving proving that people are not being responsible with either drug not to mention the health problems with alcohol. If taking them both away helps more than hurts, then perhaps that's the answer.

I have yet to see a nutritious use of pot or alcohol that far outweighs the harm it can do. The same goes for alcohol. It does more damage than good. Everytime someone says there are benefits, they neglect to mention the dangers that negate the benefits.

But then the issue isn't really if it's dangerous or not, the issue is really “people just want to escape the realities of life at any expense regardless of how harmful the said drug or drink is”. I suspect that's the real issue.

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My Gran is 78 years old and suffers from bad arthritis, the doctors are the drug pushers they have her hooked on all kinds of crap, its man made synthetic crap, she cant give up these pills even if she wanted to as it would kill her. Pills are so much different to drugs you can cold turkey heroin but you try to cold turkey these pills doctors so easily prescribe.

I dont agree with drugs like heroin as i have seen too many people go by the way, they would sell their own granny for a fix, it is a big problem here in the uk.

I think as long as anything is took in moderation and not abused then everyone to their own.

Then you have the other argument that pot will lead onto other things like harder drugs.

Only if you allow it remember you are in control of your own destiny up to a point, if you are unable to control your own desires then i suppose you end up a junkie, its just a matter of saying no simple as that.

Take a look at the hippies peace love it got to the point where professionals were dropping out of society and turning into hippies, this frightened the US goverment, they could not be having none of this, what with doctors, solicitors dropping out of society it would kill the economy and the country plus where would it stop, so to cull this the goverment spread progaganda the hippies were dirty, they were layabouts, they were drug pushers, they were evil, they had to destroy the hippie culture before it destroyed them.
And thats the truth.

Think about it for a moment just say the hippie movement was not destroyed where would we be now. In a way you cant blame the goverment for wanting to put a stop to this movement if they did not we would all be living in communes smoking dope all day and bonking each other.

Sounds good to me

I agree I would never legalize herion, because I have seen it mess up so many people's lives.

I don't think canabis leads to harder drugs though unless you want it to.

The main bad thing about having to buy canabis illegally is you have to go to the same drug dealers that sell the bad drugs, so some people get pushed into it, and they also think if canabis is illegal and thats ok how can another illegal drug be bad.

I just think if a drug is really bad ban it, and if a drug is not so bad don't, that way there is a clear distinction between drugs that fu*k you up and drugs that don't.

I myself hardly touch cannabis, I liek to drink though and I don't see how me drinking alcohol is any better than them smoking the stuff, In many ways alcohol is prolly worse.