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Posted: 07/07/2004 03:21 pm
I live a small island located of the cost of Nova Scotia Canada, and I'm amazed that Michael Moore latest documentary has made it into our local theater. We don't get every movie here, only the big name movies make it this far, and as for documentaries, this is a first.
Guess I should go see it?
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St0n3y
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Posted: 07/07/2004 04:32 pm
Only if you like to freely submit yourself to propoganda. Me, I tend to stay away from such.
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Posted: 07/07/2004 04:40 pm
Is there a Democrat in the house?
St0n3y, my Republican friend, have you seen it?
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St0n3y
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Posted: 07/07/2004 05:03 pm
As I said, I don't submit myself to propoganda. Do I need to see it to determine if it is propoganda? No. I seen enough of Micheal Moore's "doucmentaries" to know that he takes a truth, hides relevant facts, and twists them in a way to produce a pre-determined outcome.
Personally, I enjoy hearing other points of view, but only so much as the points of view are based on the entirety of the known facts.
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Posted: 07/07/2004 05:17 pm
St0n3y, come on, Michael Moore won an Oscar, and it would take a very long post to list all the awards this guy has been given.
He isn't exactly in the league of The National Inquirer or that type of tabloid journalism.
Did you watch him on 60 Minutes last week? They found a few holes, but not many.
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jcokos
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Posted: 07/07/2004 10:16 pm
Go ahead and see it. I did. Made for quite an evening of conversation at the Cokos house last weekend.
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philh
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Posted: 07/08/2004 02:47 am
<Made for quite an evening of conversation...>
I can imagine
I'm off to see it this weekend - will comment later.
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excell
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Posted: 07/08/2004 09:51 am
for the first time the potential of a mass medium — in this case, movies — to affect American politics in new ways."
Website...
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jcokos
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Posted: 07/08/2004 10:11 am
And there you have it. The point of the movie is not to educate or to entertain, but to affect an election.
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Webmaster-Toolkit.com
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Posted: 07/08/2004 12:52 pm
It's on my list of things to do at the weekend
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St0n3y
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Posted: 07/08/2004 05:33 pm
So winning an Oscar actually means something in the real world? c'mon, you know better than that.
The measure of relevancy should not be how many like-minded people applaud you and give you awards, but how much truth seeking is actually applied.
If Rush Limbaugh creaded a "documentary" on Clinton or Kerry, or anyother liberal politician do you think Hollywood would give him an Oscar? I think not.
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Posted: 07/08/2004 06:31 pm
You got a good point, however, I tried to get in tonight, and it is still sold out. This is nuts.
Oh, ...jcokos, this is Canada, we don't vote, not even for our own politicians.
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Rezac
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Posted: 07/12/2004 01:20 pm
Now watch this drive!
anyone but Bush 2004
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ClickIt
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Posted: 07/12/2004 02:44 pm
Michael Moore is the Court Jester of America.
Is he fair, unbiased, and scientifically rigorous in his methodology? Not by a long shot.
However, does he ask some important questions? Yes.
St0n3y, you said you don't submit yourself to propoganda. Have you ever watched the evening "news"?You'd better chuck the TV out the window. The "news" is propoganda.
Will Moore have some sort of effect on the US Presidential election? I am inclined to say no.
Flawed propoganda/documentary though it may be, Farenheit 9/11 is worth the price of admission at the local cineplex. Whatever your polotical views, the Court Jester does get away with asking important questions.
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greenleaves
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Posted: 07/13/2004 11:27 am
Ever seen Ran by Akira Kurosawa?
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St0n3y
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Posted: 07/13/2004 11:57 am
St0n3y, you said you don't submit yourself to propoganda. Have you ever watched the evening "news"?You'd better chuck the TV out the window. The "news" is propoganda.
Much of the news is propoganda. Which is why I'm selective. Not to mention I don't have to pay for it.
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WinningWays
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Posted: 07/13/2004 03:47 pm
I saw it. He should have stopped shortly after the 911 attack, or at least condensed some afterwards. That last 40 minutes got VERY long...
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Posted: 07/13/2004 05:34 pm
I still haven't seen it. I've got family visiting this week ... and they have seen it. Their opinion is that it was boring. Apparently it was too much info and not enough Michael Moore.
philh ... what did you think of it?
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philh
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Posted: 07/14/2004 01:49 am
I never went to see it.
After reading the stories of the Intelligence Report thingy last Thursday I thought I'd leave it a week or two.
I'm interested in American politics - but one can have too much of a good/bad thing.
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WinningWays
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Posted: 07/14/2004 09:26 am
The last half was real boring. I'm into politics and conspirast theories and stuff, and I kept thinking, "Gee, I could be washing dishes or something..."
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