formerskeptic
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Posted: 12/30/2006 05:17 am
Couldn't believe what I was witnessing this morning. A powerful head of state with an inch thick rope wrapped around his neck. Who would have thought? Then just before the trap door opens, the camera shot cuts away. Like the X-Files, we're left hanging (pardon the pun  ) to fill in the rest! My jaw was on the floor.
Hollywood's gonna have a field day with this one that's for sure. Anyone else shocked by all this?
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mj1256
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
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Posted: 12/30/2006 08:53 am
the conspiracy guys are already saying he wasn't killed.
probably living on diego garcia, sipping mai tai's
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formerskeptic
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Posted: 12/31/2006 04:03 am
Wouldn't be surprised mj. I mean think about it. Your last day on earth and you don't even care to see your own family before you go? Not only that, the man doesn't even flinch let alone show any signs of reluctance. Every man has his breaking point regardless of how messed up he his.
Then again, when you've done everything you could possibly do with all that money and power, what else is there to live for? The inevitable always finds a way to catch up with us. Death; The closing chapter to all but a misconstrued book known as life! 
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Curt
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Posted: 12/31/2006 07:19 am
formerskeptic said:
Not only that, the man doesn't even flinch let alone show any signs of reluctance. Every man has his breaking point regardless of how messed up he his.
Should read: "most men have their breaking point regardless of how messed up they are."
You got to think of Saddam's disposition. We have a very hardened man who's full of hate and contempt. Virtually all of his thoughts at the time are likely of extreme resentment towards his captors. When a person "like him" is in that state of mind, he/she doesn't think as much about the rope going around his/her neck as you might imagine. That kind of person thinks of how ungrateful the former subjects were (not that his majority of subjects had much to be grateful for). Saddam seemed delusional with power and refused to even think about giving up the power (in his mind) even though it had been stripped of him already. Is he going to break down when he thinks he's the rightful leader? Likely not. He's so stubborn, ruthless, and full of hate that he can't think of anything else.
Good riddance to a tyrant and justice finally served for him.
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formerskeptic
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Posted: 01/06/2007 07:50 am
Be that as it may Curt, I still believe every man has his breaking point. Perhaps at this particular occasion, it wasn't his time.
Having said that, I don't particularly believe his form of punishment was appropriate. Why? Because he didn't suffer long enough to endure the same pain his people experienced under his rule for all those years.
Was justice served according to the tortured victims? Maybe. Most of them are happy for now that he was dealt with. But shortly after, who knows? It may dawn on them that he didn't suffer long enough for his crime.
Then again, he could be "sipping mai tai's" as mj puts it. Only time will tell.
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g1smd
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Posted: 01/06/2007 08:25 am
I wonder where all the look-alikes, that he had as stand-ins in case of assasination attempts, have gone?
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Curt
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Posted: 01/06/2007 08:33 pm
look alikes... hmmm, good question. However, I tend to not think that a look-alike would willingly let himself get hanged pretending to be Saddam. The Iraki people would not hang another person in his place. Saddam had a great many enemies in his own country that absolutely hated him for what he had done. They would ensure that Saddam had justice served against him.
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almir
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Posted: 01/10/2007 12:40 am
Justice?
You must be joking. Justice would be if Don Rumsfeld and at least half a dozen other western politicians were hanged together with Saddam.
Here we have another Hollywood black and white, good guy - bad guy scenario. Let us hang the bad guy who cares about the system that put him in place.
He could have been Saddam or anyone else in his place, Idi, Tony or Dubbya the result would have been exactly the same.
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formerskeptic
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Posted: 01/10/2007 05:02 am
Hanging does not necessarily serve as form of justice quite frankly. All it does is give the perpetrator an easy way out to escape a formidable form of punishment.
Think about it. Saddam was going to die anyway, that’s a given. We all are. But what did the justice system do in this case? It just pulled his expiry date back to be sooner than he’d hoped for.
Did he feel any remorse for his crime? Of course not. He had no time to truly reflect on his heinous crime and drown in his own guilt. Guilt would have probably killed him eventually. Therefore I don’t see how taking away a human life, legally or otherwise, serves not only as justice served, but a means to show other power hungry fools to look out.
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 01/10/2007 10:04 am
He's not dead!!!!!
I saw him at lunch today - food-court at the mall.
Looked like he was enjoying a 6" Veggie on whole wheat from Subway - swear to Dog!
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beth_lk
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Posted: 01/10/2007 10:34 pm
a man with no conscious feels no guilt
sport - your just bad lol
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 01/11/2007 05:31 am
...and I feel no guilt...
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Curt
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Posted: 01/11/2007 11:55 pm
Agreed! Saddam felt no guilt over his wrong-doings. You'd be waiting an awful long time to get Saddam to feel guilt.
Hmmm confused by this comment:
almir said:
Let us hang the bad guy who cares about the system that put him in place.
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formerskeptic
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Posted: 01/14/2007 08:47 pm
Saddam may have been ruthless and yes, it would've taken him a long time to feel any shred of guilt. But like most of us (aliens could be reading this too), he's only human.
Put a man of his prowess in a 6 by 9 cell for a number of years, while sharing a limited amount of space with his opressed country folk, he'd crack soon enough.
That's it Sports Guy. Like the King of rock n' roll, keep Saddam's legacy alive lol
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 01/15/2007 07:33 am
That's it Sports Guy. Like the King of rock n' roll, keep Saddam's legacy alive lol
Meh, I'm only one guy, but I do what I can...
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formerskeptic
Joined: Oct 05, 2001
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Posted: 01/16/2007 02:46 am
Sport, you wouldn't happen to have a theme song to keep the legend alive now do you?
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