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thomhee
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Posted: 06/20/2008 03:42 pm
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I'm lookng for someone that can do some SEO work on my site. I need to imporve my rankings and I'm kind of out of my league. You can check out my site and let me know what you think. It's in my profile. [url removed per ToS]

Please let me know what you think and what you think you can do for me.

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Thomas
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Happy to help folks, but please follow the posted rules in our Terms of Service. URLs can be posted in your profile for reference. wink


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los_angeles_seo
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Posted: 06/20/2008 05:11 pm
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you rank on the top #10 for 'funny t-shirt', whats keywords do you wanna rank for? your title seems a bit spammy because you have repeated 'funny t shirts to many times.



thomhee
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Posted: 06/21/2008 02:56 pm
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I see myself as #11 for funny t-shirts. Would like to get back in the top 5

Would also love to rank for "t-shirts" but think that may just be wishful thinking.



thomhee
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Posted: 06/22/2008 11:22 am
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I also lost my ranking on Yahoo. I have no idea how or why that happened.



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Posted: 06/22/2008 11:57 pm
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Not really a SEO myself but I'll give it a shot bigsmile

1. Try and focus on a couple of keywords (in your meta tags) that haven't been fully utilized by your competitor. Once you've locked in these keywords, then you can try and tackle the big fish.

2. Revise the frequency of your main keyword, "T-shirt", that's concentrated mostly in your category listing. This definitely looks a little spammy and is probably one of the reasons you lost your high ranking. I'd drop the word all together and just have the category names. Have a look at your competitors' sites and note their keyword frequency.

3. And lastly, if you do decide to take my advice that sounds somewhat professional (at least to me anyway), cross your fingers and pray that it works because it's one thing to sound professional and quite another to BE professional.

And there you have it.

How did I do guys? Out of ten!

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Posted: 06/23/2008 02:16 am
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At least eight smile

I'd expand a bit on the 'keyword density' issue.

Personally I have never counted keywords in my life, even when many SEOs argued long into the night about the exact percentage you needed.

These days, I think most people recognise that there is no magic number or percentage ... but if it looks spammy, it will probably be treated as spammy.

Keyword stuffing can still get you a ban, but in most cases, it it's simply one more ingredient in sick site syndrome.

The 'trick' is to write naturally, and just be sure that every time you use a pronoun, you check to see if repeating the keyword instead might clarify what you are saying - as well as helping the SEs.

I really would go no further.



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Posted: 06/23/2008 03:49 am
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Woohoo! Nailed an eight! Not bad for my first try. Guess I lost the 2 marks for wrong choice of terminology huh! Keyword Frequency - Keyword Density? wink



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Posted: 06/23/2008 06:22 am
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When you look at your competitors websites to find keywords that have not been targeted by them, do not adopt their methods of ranking. I have been approached about doing SEO for several t-shirt sites and by nature they are extremely spammy. In my opinion, if you play it straight, you could outrank them, even though it is an extremely competitive field.

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Posted: 06/23/2008 07:45 am
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Guess I lost the 2 marks for wrong choice of terminology huh! Keyword Frequency - Keyword Density?


Nope, it's just that if I gave you a perfect ten, you'd have nowhere to go but down.

Plus I'm mean smile

But I never worry about jargon - I get it wrong too often myself!



thomhee
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Posted: 06/23/2008 10:27 am
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I have adjusted my meta tags a little bit and I did mess around with my category keywords. What do you think?



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Posted: 06/23/2008 12:44 pm
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There's a nifty Content Analysis section in Google Webmastertools that can give some very good clues for some types of problems. Be aware that it can take several weeks for things to update inside Webmastertools after changes though.

A simple site:domain.com search can yield useful data too. Is the snippet the text from your meta description or is it the first 20 words from the content of the page? Google will dump the meta description below a certain "quality".






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Posted: 06/23/2008 12:50 pm
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forget the meta tags, they were not at issue and are ignored by the search engines anyway. Its your on page optimization thats the problem.

It looks like your trying to get your main page to rank for all of your keywords and phrases. You can really only do well for 2 or 3 keywords and phrases for any one page


from a page on your site
"We have a wide variety of Funny and Vintage style t-shirts that can only be found on Funny-tshirts.com. Above you will find our top 25 funny t-shirts that can only be found on funny tshirts.com. Search through our t-shirt categories to the left to find the hard to find funny t-shirts for special occassions, parties or a great funny birthday gift. Funny t-shirts .com is comitted to you the t-shirt customer in producing the highest quality funny and vintage style t-shirts on the web!"

this is a great example of keyword stuffing and over repetition. this is damaging your site.

This is for the 3 stooges category and t-shirt section, do ya think you should have someting about the 3 stooges in your description so that when people search for a 3 stooges t-shirt, the search engines will serve the stooges page? From what I can see, your just optimizing for funny t-shirts and your site name. Be specific on what your selling.


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Posted: 06/23/2008 02:03 pm
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Thanks for the advice.

I need to get a person to write content for me for all of those category pages. I'm really bad at that sort of thing.

Will that by any chance help my overall rankings for funny t-shirts?

Where can I find someone to write copy for my category pages?





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Posted: 06/23/2008 02:04 pm
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mj, I will look into changing all of this for my category pages. What should I do for the home page?



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Posted: 06/23/2008 05:46 pm
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home page => funny t-shirts
each category should have a dedicated page optimized for that category.
each category should have links to the product pages optimized for the particular product

so I search for funny tshirts, i get your main page, and don't forget, you have t-shirts, tshirts, etc

I search for 3 stooges tshirts and I get your 3 stooges catalog page

I search for curly on a tshirt (or whatever the product is) and i get a product page

so instead of just having one page being found for one keyword, optimize every thing and every page and have 3000 (or what ever your product count is) search results



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Posted: 06/23/2008 06:46 pm
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I just changed my 3 stooges page. Just updated the description. Is this kind of what you are talking about?



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Posted: 06/23/2008 06:51 pm
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Right now, I have my category pages with a selection of all the t-shirts that relate to that category.

When you click on a product though, it doesn't go to a static page, it just goes to a page that is something like this: funny-tshirts.com/proddetail.php?prod=Stoogedrivedrunk

Should it be like this or should I have it as something else. I think it would be really hard to optimize this page because it's the proddetail.php page and that page is used by every product on my site.



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Posted: 06/23/2008 11:09 pm
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Each new URL is treated as a separate page. Each new query string makes that a new URL.



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Posted: 06/23/2008 11:50 pm
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Nope, it's just that if I gave you a perfect ten, you'd have nowhere to go but down.
Hahaha, you're probably right.
Plus I'm mean
Good to know wink



thomhee
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Posted: 06/24/2008 06:41 am
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g1smd, I was just talking to people in my shopping cart forum. I can change each one of my product from a dynamic URL to a static URL. I have allot of products and this would be a little time consuming, but each page would have their own unique title and meta info.

Would this be worth it?


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