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magoman
Joined: Apr 04, 2005
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Posted: 04/25/2005 04:42 pm
The main page of my site was indexed with MSN, and stay
on the 2-nd page of this search engene for search term "fishfinders". It is there for at least 2 weeks. But no one moore page from my site listed with MSN.
In oder to list all my pages with Google, I just listed
all my fishfinders with Froogle and everything was listed.
Please, if somebody know what should I do to list my
another pages with MSN, help me...
Thank you.
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Logan
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Posted: 04/25/2005 06:31 pm
that's a fairly good start regarding rankings. Keep at it.
When I search msn for your domain I see more than one page included within their index. I am using the following search to view all pages from your domain indexed my MSN
site:www.yourdomain.org
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magoman
Joined: Apr 04, 2005
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Posted: 04/25/2005 07:01 pm
Thank you for your support,JimGude.
I try to do the search like you did and see 12 pages. It is
really much better then one. But when I try to find them
by kewords - they are so far from first pages...
If there is anything I can do to move them higher?
I see that here in the forum most people is professionals,
not like me, and my questions looks very naive,probably.
Just one moore question: I suspect, that in oder to move
the rest of pages higher, I probably need to have moore links to this pages. But there is very few sites will exchange links with me, if I ask to put link not to my
index page. How can I solved this problem- from your experience?
Thank you very much for unswer.
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Logan
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Posted: 04/25/2005 08:02 pm
No problem, glad to help.
You are on the right track. Focus your energy on the pages that are not ranking as well by working on the following -
1) On page optimization. Your home page ranks okay for fishfinders. Why? Analyze it and see if there are attributes of other pages indexed that don't correlate to the page(s) that have better rankings. Add more content to target more keywords. The more keyword rich content you have, then the more visitors you will attract from increased exposure in the search engines. Consider writing articles, or other content to expand the text on your website if most of your text is from category names, product names and product descriptions. Consider people searching for "comparisons", "free shipping", "low prices" or other attributes of services provided.
2) Internal navigation. These are links within your own site to your own pages. Do these links include your most important keywords (keep it natural) for your most important keywords for the url it directs to. How prominent are they? Do your most important urls have links/navigation sitewide? The beginning and end of every page are the most important areas for navigation. If you don't have footer links, try them and see if it helps incorporating your keywords. Also do you have a sitemap. You should, these sitemap links should incorporate naturally your keywords within the link text. Break your sitemap down into categories to group many links into common themes. A site map consisting of many pages can be good. Every url of your site should be included within your sitemap, and every url should be targeting a keyword phrase or more.
3) Links from other sites. Get them to your home page, but also specific links to your internal pages you want to rank higher. Mix up the link text, and of course incorporate the keywords you want to rank for that particular url. How to find links isn't hard, if you are willing to put in some hard work versus money. 3a) Get links from directories 3b) Search the search engines for links. For example, search google, yahoo, msn, teoma for the following keywords. Vary them up using your different keywords you want to target and start digging.
"add url" and "my keyword"
"submit url" and "my keyword"
"add site" and "my keyword"
"submit site" and "my keyword"
"add link" and "my keyword"
"submit link" and "my keyword"
... directory, website, links, and other keyword variations can be used as well. Someone has a big list around here.
When getting links from other sites, don't link to their site unless it is of good quality from your visitors perspective. The better quality, the better the impact over the long term. Its an ongoing process, but it can be done with some hard work (requires patience and consistency over the long run).
Hope that helps - good luck.
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magoman
Joined: Apr 04, 2005
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Posted: 04/25/2005 08:32 pm
Thanks a lot,Jim. It is a best practical advise and guade I find on the internet for a long time. I hope it helps not just me, but another begginers as well.
Very nice post and very valuble for me. Thanks.
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123_123
Joined: Apr 18, 2005
# Posts: 137
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Posted: 05/19/2005 11:55 pm
My question is about the sitemap. They say google only likes a sitemap if around 100 links, but what do you do if the website has say 2000 pages ? For instance, do you make smaller maps and run links to them across the top of the index pagee like:
sitemap1Sitemap2Sitemap3 or what is the solution pls ?
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Logan
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Posted: 05/20/2005 04:10 pm
break it down into multiple pages/categories based on your keyword research). Use your keywords appropriately - not 'site map1, sitemap2, etc.'.
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ijunior
Joined: Aug 18, 2005
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Posted: 08/26/2005 07:53 am
Logan, can you please answer one question or just try to make it clearer for me
I have a keyword that is #1 in Google, but at the same time it's #14 in Yahoo and _#21 in MSN_. As for me, it's a little bit strange, i'm very curious about it and i can't understand how to improve this situation.
can you give any hints please.
thanks
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g1smd
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Posted: 08/26/2005 08:02 am
It is rare to get the same result in all search engines, as they rank different crieria.
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ijunior
Joined: Aug 18, 2005
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Posted: 08/26/2005 08:23 am
yes, sure, i understand that but such a difference....it's really very alluring to understand "why so?"
these 3 search engines are different but if they are so different and give such different results, i can conclude that they have their specific things to be pointed my attention to, isn't it?
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