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Jordy
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Mar-10 11:27
Hi there! Im currently using an Unix server. My ISP only provides standard set-up - module perl is not installed. I’m willing to upload perl for cgi use script to server.QUESTION: 1-Do I need to configure module perl first? I’ve just found this script ABOVE: 2-Is it Ok for my mod_perl configuration: <Location /perl> SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI PerlSendHeader On </Location> Any comment or suggestion will be welcomed. Thanks for your help.
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Jim
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Posted: 2001-Jan-28 22:44
One of our dedicated Moderators is launching a new ad network.phatgames asked if there was any way to get the word out, so I started this thread for that purpose. Normally, blatant ads are not allowed here and this is only OK because our moderators are allowed a certain leeway because of the invaluable assistance they offer our members. phatgames, take it from here.
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DianeV
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Posted: 2001-Mar-10 11:45
Jordy, hi. I know that this forum is called "Help!" ... but in truth, they are all help forums.Why don't you post in the Server Administration ... I'm (darned) sure you'd get some assistance for this specific question there.
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firstmark
Joined: Jan 30, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 00:14
Well don't keep us in suspense for too long. I think many people who visit these forums try every new ad network that appears. So adding one more to the mix is always a good thing.
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Prowler
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Joined: Aug 14, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Mar-11 01:58
Quote:________________ Jordy:I’m willing to upload perl for cgi use script to server. _____________________ You don't need to have mod_perl installed in your server to use Perl.Your sysadmin would have installed Perl and the standard CGI.pm libraries.Your cgi scripts written in Perl would work perfectly well, if placed in the appropriate folder with the right (755) permission.For detailed discussions of installations and admin issues,post your queries in Server admin forum. We have got this well organized into suitable topics.So Please address your queries at the appropriate forums. 
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charliecss
Joined: Jan 26, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 00:29
Sounds intresting. Another + of being a moderator (weep, weep). Anyway, moderator's deserve it, becuse of all of their hard work. Thanks, Jim, for starting it, because if anyone else did, it would look like spam. So, phatgames...
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Jordy
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Mar-11 02:58
Thanks! Your replies just relieve me - then more you just put me on the right path. Thanks you.
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Jim
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 04:13
Just a note while we await the arrival of phat.We do have a few openings for new moderators. We are filling some slots previously taken by moderators handling 2 or more forums. We think it would be good to get some fresh suckers... oops, I mean fresh meat involved. The pay is great - nothing, but you get double time on weekends and holidays. Moderators do get a fair amount of new business by virtue of their efforts here, but that is not the main benefit. Moderating just makes you feel good.
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--kris--
Joined: Jul 20, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 10:13
Jim,Hi, Im interested! What kind of requirements do you have? Regards, Kris
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NEntropy
Joined: Dec 08, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 12:45
Jim,About the opening for moderators - How much time do you think will it require per week and which forums are open? Daniel
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phatgames
Joined: Dec 03, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 14:43
Thanks Jim, I appreciate it  Anyway, my company is launching a joint venture with Go4Media LLC to produce an ad network for sites whose main audience consists of either teens and/or young adults (20-24) Now the nice thing about our network is that we will be hosting all sites in our network - so if the ads were underperforming (like today's market) you still would be profitable/break even since we'll be paying those bills for you. Also, you will get promotion via the network through member sites linking to each other via text links, bannerads, buttons, etc. We will also promote you on our own site and our various media properties (and phatstart is launching some new offline media projects which could really help your site) You would also get to participate with phatstart partnerships like giving away prizes and contests on your site and all that fun stuff. Requirements are 200,000+ pageviews a month, but exceptions are made to sites with large amounts of registered users (over 30,000+) or with newsletters having subscribers of over 20,000 Right now if you head to our site, we don't have paid advertisers because we are in a transitional period while we prepare for the new advertisers. Last month we had a large sega campaign which did 5/CPM for bannerads and 15/cpm for intersitial ads - this campaign was a huge success. Some of the past sponsors have included Hotmail, MSN, MTV, VH1, MyPrimeTime.com, Uproar.com, eCrush.com and so fourth. The campaigns usually get 2-5 cpm or 30-50 cents a click. Basically, it's ala Snowball.com or UGO.com, except we will be pretty selective about sites and make sure And my business partners will mostly run the ad sales part - so you can be rest assured people with over 30 years of experience are selling ads on your site. Interested? Email me (email in the profile) with website url, monthly pageviews and unique visitors, registered number of users (if applicable) and # of newsletter subscribers (if applicable) Any site that targets teens or young adults is welcomed - especially sites that were recently kicked out of UGO or snowball
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daveg
Joined: Nov 16, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 15:14
Hi Phatgames,I am very interested in possibly joining your new network (and more than meet the requirements; we can discuss that offline), but have some general questions that other people may be wondering - so I'll ask here  1) Is hosting on your server required? If so, why? I'd be fine moving it , I suppose, but would feel more comfortable after a trial period. To that end, if you're hosting the site, e-mail goes with it. Do you provide POP e-mail? It's important to me to maintain @mywebsite.com e-mail addresses and I know this was not supported at another network that hosted sites (I can't remember which offhand). 2) Are the $2-$5CPM rates you mentioned our cut or before commission. If before commission, what percentage do you take? 3) Do you require exclusivity? I think many try to avoid this due to past bad experiences. 3b) Is a contract involved? Thanks, phatgames, and I hope this new venture works out for you. You indeed appear quite knowledgable about the Net market and it should do well if your experience is any indicator. Dave
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Jim
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 15:26
The "job" usually requires about 1/2 hour each day. Sometimes more when something reaaly hot is happening in the forum. That happens when for instance a search engine makes a boo-boo or changes something basic to effect rankings.The goals of the moderator are: 1. Keep the ads and rude behaviour out. 2. Make sure that everyone gets an answer. If a couple of days go by and a question is not answered, the moderator might answer it or simply try to stimulate the members to pay attention to the question. 3. Insure that mis-information does not go unchallenged or corrected. We don't want wrong info to be available for future visitors. They will not know it is bad info unless someone posts in the thread that it is bad. They will act on just about anything they find in the forums assuming that it is reliable. 4. When a question is posted that has been asked and answered already in your forum or another forum, just post a note telling the member where to find the info. The thread stays open for further comments in case they have new information. What do we look for in a moderator? 1. Able to leap tall building in... oops. Different job. 2. Able to participate in heated discussion without loosing his/her cool. Heated discussion is good but taking shots at the participants is a no-no. The nature of the beast is that our members are very skilled and don't always agree on the best way to do something. It should never lead to attacks. 3. Able to resist the urge to strike back when taunted by a drive-by spammer or other new member who comes here to stir up trouble. This is not one of my better skills.  What's in it for the Moderators? 1. You will be surprised at how good it makes you feel to help as many people as hang out here. For every poster we get many more who just read and learn. Some 'decloak' and post only after as much as 2 years of reading every day or week. Coaxing our cloaked members is a job that all moderators enjoy. 2. You will become well known on the web. Many of our long term moderators credit these forums with supplying much or most of their new clients. This is not something you have to do anything about. It just happens because members want to know about the staff and seek them out. 3. You will be involved in the Staff Lounge where we discuss all of the minutia of problems and ways to make the forums better. We also enjoy a real family feeling because we all face the same challenges in moderating. The moderators also share business leads with each other. 4. You will learn more each day than you ever thought possible. Being involved absolutely to an increase in your skills. Anyone who is interested in moderating just post here or sned some info to mailto:mother@searchengineforums.com
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--kris--
Joined: Jul 20, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 15:30
Hi, JimIm interested in becoming a moderator. I can take any forum you have that is open.
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phatgames
Joined: Dec 03, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 16:08
Dave,Hosting isn't required - we only offer it in case it could be a bad month in the advertising world - so you can still always be online and wouldn't be forced to shut down. The 2-5/CPM was before commission - commission varies on the site and usually goes 25-45% Exclusivity is required, however for sites with incredible amounts of traffic (over 200,000 uniques/5-10 million pageviews a month) exceptions can be made. Yes, a contract is involved Thanks for the kind words about the venture - we're talking with investors as well about it, so hopefully they are excited as we are about it
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daveg
Joined: Nov 16, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 16:28
Thanks for the quick reply Phatgames. I will be in touch. Dave
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SSacobie
Joined: Feb 08, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 16:40
1. What is the length of the contract?2. For non-exclusivity, would there be a minimum requirement written into the contract? I was very pleased with Go4 last month and up through the 7th and was delivering as much traffic as possible after other networks got their share, but this month, I've almost stopped delivering to them (only 1.5 million since the 8th, and down to about 10000/day now) because they're getting slaughtered with almost entirely PSAs for the past few weeks. After mid-February, I'd have no problem sending upwards of 15 million page views to wherever is performing best, but I don't want to face any potential restrictions. 3. What types of links/buttons would be required? 4. How is the commission determined? 5. As relates to hosting, what is available?
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NEntropy
Joined: Dec 08, 1999
# Posts: 1117
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 17:52
I would like to help out as a moderator if there is an opening in a technical forum.  I've worked extensively on PHP/mySQL platform, have worked with Perl and most other internet technologies, and my current job have me coding on ASP/MS-SQL platform utilizing XML/XSL, though I'm not as proficient in VBScript as I'm in PHP. I've built a music search engine (17~18 million pageviews / month) using PHP/mySQL, a site where coaches can signup to get their basketball teams a webpage complete with personal statistics and pictures (17~18 thousand pageviews / month ), and couple of small tools. Let me know if there's an opening... Daniel
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daveg
Joined: Nov 16, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-29 17:59
As long as SSacobie has questions for you Phatgames, I thought of three more that others may be interested in:1) What is the publisher interface like? Can publishers insert one (or, better yet, multiple) defaults? i.e. for another ad network. 2) Is the code you use the same for each page? This is a huge one as with a large number of pages, inserting random numbers (like I had to back when I was with advertising.com) is beyond a pain in the *ss. 3) I assume that even with exclusivity, textual affiliate links are still OK? I *think* that's it  Thanks again, Dave
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Mother
Joined: Jul 28, 1999
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Posted: 2001-Jan-30 05:49
When sending your requests to mother@searchengineforums.com, please include your username and a bit of information about yourself. It's hard to decide when we don't know who it is or what their particular skills or strong points may be.
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