micropixels
Joined: Jan 09, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Jan-10 04:56
There's a new type of advertising POPIN ads do they work for advertisers and are they reliable for payouts that pay 1.50 per CRM. Give me comments I'm very curious with this popin ad.
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davaddavad
Joined: Aug 02, 2001
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Posted: 2004-Jan-10 05:35
With the onslaught of pop up blockers being added to almost everthing in the future from google's toolbar to ie's browser, and many more jumping on the band wagon pops are supposed to die. However I have read about technolgies that can deliver said type adverts on your desktop(not mainstream yet). But paid for: one way or another from overture or adwords is whats being pushed. There are isps like earthlink with a pop up blocker and many more that are offering pop up blockers.
Here is some food for thought there are technologies offering blocking type technologies stopping google's adwords and there are technologies out there as an add on to google to help you search google better. Pros and cons of the online advertising enviroment. Filters for the filters . Just one more of the "Piece's of Google's puzzle" jmho  Dave
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micropixels
Joined: Jan 09, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Jan-10 06:54
You think so? Adwords is insane if there's a lot of competition and it doesn't bring you as much traffic and exposer. All the other big guys like msn, yahoo, go have the resources and captial to buy real advertisements there's no problem for them getting traffic and money but what about the new guy that is starting off that doesn't have a whole lot of captial and for affiliate exchange that doesn't work to well, adsense can costs alot and not bring in any sales, overture same, so what is the best solution?
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davaddavad
Joined: Aug 02, 2001
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Posted: 2004-Jan-10 18:49
Well if adwords was all that it is or isnt why does google offer it as a package deal? There is an underlying reason. This year the web isnt looking very favorable with respect to the new guys. Its all about the money unfortunately which is not that appealing to me either.
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Silv
Joined: Aug 10, 1999
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Posted: 2004-Jan-15 08:07
With the onslaught of pop up blockers being added to almost everthing in the future from google's toolbar to ie's browser, and many more jumping on the band wagon pops are supposed to die.
True, but the types of ads that this thread was started about aren't quite popups, they are DHTML ads. From a technological standpoint, I think it would be fairly difficult to block these (how does one determine what's a valid DIV and what's not?). Of course, most implementations of this type of ad only show in IE.
These are similar in nature to the Coca-Cola and Ford Explorer ads that were made a big deal of on Yahoo a while back. Implemented tastefully, they can actually be kind of neat -- both effective for the advertiser, and slightly entertaining for the end user (well, more entertaining than a popup).
I don't particularily care for PopinAds' implementation specifically; their mixture of Ad Exchange and Ad Network comes off as a little confusing.
adsense can costs alot and not bring in any sales, overture same, so what is the best solution?
There's a little of that with almost every advertising method out there. A well planned campaign takes a lot of thought and overall strategy, not just a buy at one vendor or another. Of course, this can get a little expensive.
For "cheap" buys, I'd suggest some of the smaller PPC engines, as well as directly approaching medium-size content sites that apply to the topic you're trying to advertise. Most publishers would be very happy to hear from someone interesting in purchasing campaigns.
This year the web isnt looking very favorable with respect to the new guys. Its all about the money unfortunately which is not that appealing to me either.
Oh, I don't know. I think we'll see *lots* of new guys this year. AdSense will see competition on the publisher end from a few of the smaller PPCs that have large enough advertiser pools. I also think we'll see a few new DHTML and Interstitial offerings as well. If the advertising market is going to fly, now's the time.
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jackc
Joined: Nov 06, 2003
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Posted: 2004-Feb-17 16:40
My name is Jack and I am in charge of Popinads.com. Let me answer the question about Popinads.com (http://www.popinads.com)
The click rate of advertiser campaign for Popin is pretty high compared with pop under. The success of Popin is that it is not blocked by Pop under/up killer software. The advertiser campaign must be displayed in the website for sure.
About payout, Popinads.com must be reliable. Some people may know that our sister website is Paypopup.com which has higher rating in Alexa.com. In addition, our company must issue the payment on time.
However, the price of Popin traffic is higher than Pop under. Because of this reason, our company decides to lower the publisher payout from $1.5 to $1.0 CPM.
So do you all join and try Popinads.com?
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C.P
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
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Posted: 2004-Feb-18 02:18
That make no sense. I use Paypopup which is $1.4 for U.S/U.K traffic for CPM. And you want us to downgrade to $1 CPM with popinads? So we are suppose to make more money by accepting less money?
[ Message was edited by: C.P 02/18/2004 12:47 am ]
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Silv
Joined: Aug 10, 1999
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Posted: 2004-Feb-18 06:22
jackc, I have to admit that I'm a little confused as well. You state that "the price of popin traffic is higher than pop under", but then indicate that you're lowering your payout to publishers. Could you clarify that?
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jackc
Joined: Nov 06, 2003
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Posted: 2004-Feb-19 16:38
For C.P, if you are the new publisher to join Popinads.com, you will think that dropping the price is unreasonable. However, when you have been in Popinads.com for the short period, you may notice that the profit in poinads.com is not more than that in paypopup.com (our another network). To compete with other companies, we must lower the price. In addition, lots of publishers concern how many profit they earn per day more than CPM.
For Silv, "the price of popin traffic is higher than pop under" means that advertisers need to pay more money to buy popin traffic than pop under traffic.
I am welcome if you guys still have questions.
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C.P
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
# Posts: 43
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Posted: 2004-Feb-19 20:18
Popinads only works for IE users. How can you get the same amount of pop traffics if it only works on IE users?
Pop Under from paypopup works on all browsers.
Does Popinads allow you to set the number of times users get a pop up like with paypopups?
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Silv
Joined: Aug 10, 1999
# Posts: 1668
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Posted: 2004-Feb-21 02:10
For Silv, "the price of popin traffic is higher than pop under" means that advertisers need to pay more money to buy popin traffic than pop under traffic.
Yes. I understood that. However, if advertisers are paying *more* why are you paying publishers *less*?
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debunked
Joined: Jan 22, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Mar-04 05:13
paypopup was bad enough - whats next....................
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affid
Joined: Aug 18, 2004
# Posts: 28
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Posted: 2004-Aug-18 19:33
Avoid paypopup, I've ordered from many resellers of theirs, zilch sales. 
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hctaffy
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2004-Aug-18 21:40
Pop in ads are definitely a higher cpm, and make sure they have an auto time out feature. You want them to go away at 8 seconds or less.
PayPopUp.com is a good company, I continue to use their traffic and have good conversions for certain campaigns. Like anything its a miss or make, depends on the client.
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baggiho
Joined: Jun 01, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Aug-19 17:01
I join Infinityads.com. Even though it is the best program, I appreciate that they can send payment to me immediately through paypal and only net 15. Less network will do this.
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hctaffy
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2004-Aug-19 19:51
baggiho..infinity and clicksor are the same thing, which are yesup. what's the deal?? do you work for them?
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hctaffy
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2004-Aug-19 21:37
ignore baggiho, after reading more I do not think you work for them. i've just caught them on here before promoting their stuff as a person using their service, my bad.
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baggiho
Joined: Jun 01, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Aug-20 20:36
What do you mean, hctaffy?
Do you see my page? I add their code in my page.
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hctaffy
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2004-Aug-23 14:02
no no baggiho, sorry for the misunderstanding. I caught that company on here acting like a regular user and they were promoting their service.
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baggiho
Joined: Jun 01, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Aug-26 21:07
I see
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