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peego
Joined: Dec 10, 2001
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Posted: 2004-Mar-08 20:19
Hi all.
I'm in the search for a good reliable email software to send emails to my opt in list. I'm not exactly sure which are good.
Is it better to use a software that resides on your personal PC or on the web hosts server?
What I need is a software that can handle:
- subscribe/unsubscribe
- sends out html email letters
- easy to setup ;-)
that's about it. its not a huge list, just a few thousand, but I'd like something that can handle up to alot more for the future.
thanks!!
Jim
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auspwrz
Joined: Mar 10, 2004
# Posts: 6
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Posted: 2004-Mar-11 17:19
I use mailchimp (mailchimp.com). It's extremely affordable and easy to use. It doesn't handle unsubscribes but you could set up an e-mail account to handle this and include "mailto:" code and auto place unsubscribe in the subject line which is what I do.
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yukonbri
Joined: Mar 11, 2004
# Posts: 1
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Posted: 2004-Mar-11 17:19
You should check out Internet Mail Manager.
http://www.internetmailmanager.com
Easy setup (no setup costs), low prices, automatic subscribe/unsubscribe functions, create your own html templates, low rates, email surveys, you can integrate it with a website, free trial.
I switched to them from constant contact a few months ago, and couldn't be happier.
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turanchoks
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2004-Mar-13 13:47
As my opinion email software is always better than service. you can do whatever you want with your list and pay just once for the software
Try Mail Them Pro from http://www.kadmy.com
it does what you want including subscribe/unsubscribe
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gal
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2004-Mar-15 13:33
You can also look at MyMail. Free, Php/mySQL, with subscribe, unsubscribe, single or double opt-in, send emails with html add ons of header and footer. It does NOT handle bounces, so if this is important, you will probably have to pay for something.
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kmorris
Joined: Apr 16, 2004
# Posts: 7
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Posted: 2004-Apr-16 10:07
you can also use followupmarketer.com.
they offer several plans for different list size. So one can move to higher plan when the list grows
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stlem
Joined: Apr 22, 2004
# Posts: 2
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Posted: 2004-Apr-23 06:39
I use MailBoy 2004 from massmailersoft.com . It is absolutely easy to use. No setup is required, that's why I like it :D
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surfmon
Joined: Feb 09, 2004
# Posts: 5
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Posted: 2004-Apr-26 02:55
It seems like a nice one but how do you collect the email address? Do you use double opt-in?
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stlem
Joined: Apr 22, 2004
# Posts: 2
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Posted: 2004-Apr-26 07:17
The emails are from users who subscribed to my news letter. When new users subscribe to the newsletter I add them with the Add Mail List button in the program and if there are users who unsubscribed I add them to the unsubscribers list located in the Options dialog of the program. That's all.
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fabian05
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Posted: 2004-Jun-15 01:11
We use http://www.bighip.com for a few of our projects.
Comes with double optin/webbased/unsubscribe etc.
Plus whitelisted now on aol/yahoo/msn
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Eathan
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Posted: 2004-Jun-18 19:36
Thanks for posting this. I'm in the same boat.
Can anyone also suggest a good third party email provider? The one I've been using lately has a limit on the number of messages sent per day and I really don't feel like tackling smtp myself...
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billy_nick
Joined: Jun 22, 2004
# Posts: 5
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Posted: 2004-Jun-22 18:10
By far the best all in one mail program is http://www.bighip.com I been using them for sometime now and they are great. It handles all aspects of your mailings from opt in to opt out. Also lets you define any information you choose to collect and also is geo targeted. The stats are very impressive so if you need a full blown mail solution these guys have it going on.
Check them out good people to work with.
my 2 cents hope this helps.
-billy
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billyaspen
Joined: Sep 21, 2004
# Posts: 8
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Posted: 2004-Sep-21 09:20
You are a shill, for sure. I am so concerned about your company's ethical standards that I am tracking your shill posts down and telling people the TRUTH about bighip.com.
BEWARE of BIGHIP.COM - They will not let you VIEW or EXPORT any of your email lists, therefore EXPLOITING their customers into using them indefinitely or risk losing their mailing lists!
I emailed their support staff to ask to view my lists and they replied "I don't know why you would need to see the email addresses of your subscribers..."
BEWARE of BigHip.com
Billy Johnston
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billyaspen
Joined: Sep 21, 2004
# Posts: 8
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Posted: 2004-Sep-21 09:21
BIGHIP SUCKS! Beware - They will not let you VIEW or EXPORT any of your email lists, therefore exploiting their customers into using them indefinitely or risk losing their mailing lists!
I emailed their support staff to ask to view my lists and they replied "I don't know why you would need to see the email addresses of your subscribers..."
BEWARE of BigHip.com
Billy Johnston
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irishgirl
Joined: Sep 22, 2004
# Posts: 1
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Posted: 2004-Sep-30 23:23
Check out murgent. Been using them for a little while to send out an e-newsletter and I'm pretty pleased with it. Not hard to figure out, doesn't cost much and customers respond pretty well to it. I really like the "e-letterhead." It's kind of like having stationary for email.
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john_glube
Joined: Oct 09, 2004
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Posted: 2004-Oct-10 22:19
I'm in the search for a good reliable email software to send emails to my opt in list. I'm not exactly sure which are good.
Is it better to use a software that resides on your personal PC or on the web hosts server?
What I need is a software that can handle:
- subscribe/unsubscribe
- sends out html email letters
- easy to setup ;-)
that's about it. its not a huge list, just a few thousand, but I'd like something that can handle up to alot more for the future.
Jim,
In chosing an option for sending out e-mails to an opt-in list, the key technical question is getting the message into the subscriber's in box.
If the emailer feels comfortable in focusing on these issues, then by all means look at the "self-serve" option.
However, before chosing whether to host the script on the server, or use a computer based solution, the first step is chosing a web host which supports the needs of an emailer.
* The sending domain has a dedicated IP address.
* Reverse DNS look up of the IP address.
* The gateway server for the network hosting your web site is properly configured and has a security certificate to verify authenticity.
* The ability to publish the appropriate email policy records in the zone file for your domain.
* The web host provides protection against cross-domain forgery. This means one user forging the domain of another user within the same network. This requires secure login through port 587, as opposed to open port 25 access.
* If you decide to send the mail from your pc, don't send the email using a dynamic IP address or a broadband IP address..
Due to infected networks, many ISPs are now rejecting bulk email sent with an email alias address in this manner.
One needs a dedicated IP address, even if sending via your web host's mail server.
(These are my own comments. I am sure others have their own views.)
Familiarize yourself with the white listing requirements of the various large mail box providers. AOL publishes the needed information on its web site. The other providers keep the information close to their vest.
This may ultimately require the need to sign up with an accreditation service.
Keep in mind that many of the large mail box providers rely on spamhaus.org for realtime black listing. At the same time, more and more networks require users to run verified opt-in mailing lists.
Okay, having said this, should you decide to send email using a server side script:
* Autoresponseplus Provides the option of running verified opt-in mailing list with an audit trail. Most of the needed bells and whistles.
http://www.autoresponseplus.com/
* Dada Mail There is a free and pro version. I would get the pro version. Allows the emailer to run a verified opt-in mailing list with an audit trail. Does not have all of the features of autoresponseplus.
http://mojo.skazat.com/
(There are other solutions. These are two of the more popular solutions.)
Want to send email from your pc. Presuming your pc uses windows:
Autoreplying - European based supplier - hosted on your computer. Everything but the kitchen sink:
http://www.autoreplying.com/
World Merge - American based supplier - hosted on your computer. Sturdy and reliable:
http://www.coloradosoft.com/
(Again, there are other solutions. A search through google will dig out a much larger selection.)
Having said this, it is worth pointing out, many people would rather outsource their mailings to a third party.
One point to keep in mind. In today's environment, a reputable provider is going to exercise control over list imports.
Some providers are extremely strict. Others have lower standards. In turn this will reflect in delivery rates.
As to list exports, I notice a bit of a comment about one provider, BigHip not allowing for list exports.
I have tested and use this service for my own purposes. My understanding is that management will allow you to take your list with you should you decide to change providers.
Furthermore, BigHip is changing its feature set to allow customers to export their list. I gather this change will occur by week ending 10.15.04.
Okay with that out of the way, there are three third party providers I would look at. Each one has its own strengths, depending on the customer's needs.
* AWeber Offers both list management and sequential auto-responders. Strong support. Good delivery rates. Tracking and testing. Allows the customer to run verified opt-in mailing lists. Provides the option of an RSS feed.
http://aweber.com
* Emailaces Offers both list management and sequential auto-responders. Good support and delivery rates. Allows the customer to run verified opt-in mailing lists.
http://emailaces.com
AWeber's focus is different than Emailaces and the specific choice will depend on the user's wants and needs.
AWeber has stronger tracking and testing tools. Emailaces uses a different criteria for list import.
* Bighip This service only allows for verified opt-in lists and provides excellent delivery rates for its customers. Extremely strict criteria for list import (generally the answer is no.)
At present, this service offers strong listmanagement capability with reasonable tracking and testing tools. The provider is planning to add sequential auto-responders by week ending 15.10.04.
http://bighip.com
I have used and tested all three service providers. AWeber and Emailaces allow for a free trial, so that you can check out the service before making a final decision. BigHip allows you to run a mailing list of under 50 subscribers for free, meaning you can test the service before paying up.
Again, there are other high quality service providers on the market. Here is a couple of things to check:
* Has the provider published an SPF record?
* Take a look at the message header, is the return path showing the provider's domain or yours? If it is the provider's, this means the provider is handling bounces and the like. If it is yours, this may cause delivery problems.
* Is the provider's IP address listed in any of the core black list services?
* Is the provider white listed at Hotmail, Yahoo and AOL? (I know that BigHip is, and this is one of the reasons why I feel comfortable in recommending the service to others.)
Trusting these comments are of some assistance.
John Glube
Toronto, Canada
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cooler2
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
# Posts: 2
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Posted: 2005-Feb-07 08:53
I agree, Take a look at [link]
They provide email address list
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