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PShek
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Posted: 2000-Jun-14 17:04
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Has anyone here used bumper stickers as a form of advertisement for their website? Was it effective? Also, who did you use to actually make the bumper stickers?



rain
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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 00:53
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I have asked once, and I shall ask again. I need a ad rotating system that can rotate at least 5 million ads to sites on different servers.. I need a solid system, but I don't want to be paying .6 CPM(AdForce, Dart) to be doing this...

Central Ad- Will not do.

Webadversts- Looking for something that can handle a lot more of a load.

AdForce-Too high a rotating cost

Dart- Even worse than AdForce

AdJuggler-??? Perhaps an option, any feedback?

Spinbox- Too expensive...

AdCycle- Can it serve third party ads? Is any large site using this system?

Any more???? HELP!!!!!!!



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Posted: 2000-Jun-14 20:37
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Good question: I plan on making a bumper sticker that i can promote some...but do not plan on getting many hits from it - has anyone in the past done this and had alot of success?



JetTroop
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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 01:28
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What about Real Media at http://www.realmedia.com/technology/technology.html

I know a lot of high end sites using their software. (They also represent sites)

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Posted: 2000-Jun-14 21:54
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Yes, a group I'm associated with has done it, but not on cars. It was for a website that is the counterpart of a very popular state map for boaters. The map shows boat ramps, marinas, etc., and the web site provides deeper coverage of town info, marine repair yards, fishing tournaments. We needed a way to put the word out at the marinas (cheap), so we used bumper stickers and mailed them one. We asked them to display it on the end of the docks (near the fuel pumps) or on their bulletin boards. It's a "branding" campaign, meant for the long haul... so we really haven't tried to do any sort of tracking. But, it was well received by the marinas and we're getting in front of eyeballs for around $300.



rain
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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 01:49
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How much is openadstream from RealMedia?



HenryC
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Posted: 2000-Jun-14 22:00
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try webdecals http://www.webdecals.com
I get a lot of attention using their products.



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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 02:35
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Heh, Real Media is more then spinbox

Rain, how much is too much? Whats your price range, that would probaly help.

For a site getting 5-6 million pageviews a month, your revenues should be enough to afford 10,000 dollars for a version of Spinbox. Otherwise, most of the freeware solutions or the smaller solutions are too limited and can't handle 5-6 million pageviews.

ISPCheck.com, a big site, uses Adjuggler, but I've heard negative comments about it.

Otherwise, I don't know... what you named are the big solutions and the smaller solutions and smaller outsourced solutions are just to limited for 5-6 million pageviews



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Posted: 2000-Jun-15 01:43
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rcjordan, who did you use to make your bumper sticker or did you do it yourself?

WebDecals.com doesn't seem to make bumper stickers smile How much traffic did their decals give you?

Thanks smile



rain
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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 02:41
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Phatgames,

Are you happy with Spinbox?

I would probably get Spinbox lite if I were to get anything. Another question... Why is it an actual piece of hardware?



rcjordan
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Posted: 2000-Jun-15 02:15
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re: rcjordan, who did you use to make your bumper sticker or did you do it yourself?

We had them printed by a firm in the region (eastern NC)... Sorry, but I don't know exactly where, or how the printer was found and contacted. I was only in charge of brainstorming and (happily) left the details up to others.



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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 04:27
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Phatgames what about AdvertPRO? http://www.advertpro.com

They claim they have sites server 1.5+ Million impressions a DAY. Do you believe the author is exaggerating?

What would you reccomend for a site that gets about 500,000 impresions per month?
I also hope to reach 1.5 million impressions a month soon... Also should the ads be displayed on a seperate server or could it be on the same physical server as your site?

Maybe somthing around $200-$1000?

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Posted: 2000-Jun-15 22:33
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How much traffic I received using webdecals
I can't say for sure.
What it did do is get people interested enough to ask about my site. Which is all I
expected or wanted. That first contact is what is most important to me.

Henry C



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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 18:15
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I just used phpAds last month to serve up about 1.3 million banners. The server rarely ever shows an uptime above 0.7, that is with vBulletin running.

About 50% of the banners are locally stored, about 50% of the banners are from networks like CJ, Affinia, AdFlight and Clearblue media. I basically use the serving software to turn on/off the various ad networks.



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Posted: 2000-Jun-16 23:12
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I have used WEBDECALS a lot and recommended them to a TON of people. Mainly because I did get a response and when I needed to take it off - it came off a lot easier than a bumpersticker - and in my opinion it was easier to read than a bumper sticker

- Dana Sacco



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Posted: 2000-Aug-03 10:40
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when they say 7,000+ dollar for lite version.
is this a monthly fee? or is it the price of the unit including the software?
do they actually ship it to you and i would have to connect it to the server or how does it work?



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Posted: 2000-Jun-18 00:43
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Hi,

I am a reseller with webdecals.com (reseller, not affiliate) actually I give away their decals.

I wear my decal proudly on the back window of my car and do believe it helps a lot.

They also do make bumper stickers and 2 different kinds of decals.,,,with many options to choose from.



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Posted: 2000-Aug-04 06:34
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Rain

Yes, we are very happy with Spinbox - and it seems they introduced new financing - http://www.spinbox.com/products/top-finance.html

My partners and I use it for an ad network (go4media LLC) as well as phatstart.com and it's doing 70-80 million pageviews a month. However, it does eat up some system resources (but any big advertising solution will) and sometimes has downtime, but that's because of UUnet (the guys supplying out t-1s) dont understand spinbox that well

Here are the solutions they have:
SpinBox™ can be utilized in many different ways, and thus comes in a variety of packages.

SpinBox Light - Solution for sites that serve up to 500,000 impressions per day.

SpinBox Classic - Solution for sites that serve from 500,000 to 2.5 million impressions per day.

SpinBox Pro - Solution for sites that serve from 2.5 to 15 million impressions per day.

Virtual SpinBox - Solution for sites that serve lower volume of impressions per day or are virtually hosting their Web site.

And Spinbox does nice and pretty graphical reports. It doesn't do a ton of targeting stuff, but it's truly just built for serving tons of ads.. and yes, the support is fantastic.

It's a piece of hardware to ensure it can handle any amount of ads


Theguy said

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when they say 7,000+ dollar for lite version.
is this a monthly fee? or is it the price of the unit including the software?
do they actually ship it to you and i would have to connect it to the server or how does it work?

That's the one time fee I believe. But it would be best to contact them directly. The only monthly fee I know of for them is their Virtual Spinbox, for 25,000 ads or less a day.

Oneguy

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Phatgames what about AdvertPRO? http://www.advertpro.com
They claim they have sites server 1.5+ Million impressions a DAY. Do you believe the author is exaggerating?

What would you reccomend for a site that gets about 500,000 impresions per month?
I also hope to reach 1.5 million impressions a month soon... Also should the ads be displayed on a seperate server or could it be on the same physical server as your site?

Maybe somthing around $200-$1000?


Oneguy, I have never heard of advertpro. But the page looks like they attempted to copy centralad.com. The page I visited which supposedly had a great testimonial for The software is using flycast.

Also, the script was written in cgi. Which is fine, but that's not good for the really heavy server loads. I would honestly believe the author is lying, because I don't know how he can test it under 1.5 million ads a day

Oneguy, I would of recommended Centralad pro, but not anymore (they usually are good until 4 million ads a month). But I believe the best cost effective solution is WebAdverts (awsd.com/scripts/) or Adjuggler.

It's always best to host your ads on another dedicated server if you can. This alleviates the load and guarantees faster loading of ads (however, Adjuggler - 995 has incredibly bad system hog - just like Webadverts at a high traffic)



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Posted: 2000-Aug-04 06:37
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Real Media software is expensive. You are looking from $15,000 and up. Not bad if you have a lot of cash saved, but remember that you'll also need a server to handle the bandwidth.



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Posted: 2000-Aug-05 00:20
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I'll put in another vote for Spinbox.

We're pushing 5 million ads a day through our Spinbox setup and for the most part it just plain works. We've had some issues, but I can comfortably recommend them.

Support has been very responsive with any issues that do arise.

Their pricing is structured as a purchase of their proprietary hardware, software licensing etc (so, no, it's not $7,000/month). Expect the typical 30% of purchase price added on for an annual maintenance contract.

-Scott




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