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echan
Joined: May 03, 2004
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Posted: 2004-May-03 14:46
Can anyone answer this question? which search engines provide results to others(enhance, searchfeed, goclick, search123, kanoodle, 7search) where do they get their search results from? This will help me decide where to spend my advertising dollars. Do they get their results from a larger search engine overture or from each other. I'm trying to get the most largest reach for the dollar.
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jcokos
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Posted: 2004-May-03 22:31
The better question is "Who Doesn't" .....
It's kind of a whores business, really. Everyone feeds to everyone else, and everyone else feeds to whoever, and whoever does all sorts of fun things with it 
Seriously speaking, the bigger PPCs, such as Findwhat and Overture are pretty selective with who they'll feed to. Some of the middle tier ones (goclick, kanoodle, search123) are getting the findwhat/overture data, and also have their own selective procedures for which of the 3rd tier PPCs they'll feed down into.
From there on down, it can be quite hit or miss, so you'll need to do some homework, and ask questions individually of the various PPCs. Many of them frequent these forums, so hopefully, you'll get some good feedback from them right here.
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sw
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Posted: 2004-May-04 08:49
enhance - internal paid listings (used to show listings from goclick before)
kanoodle - internal paid listings
search123 - largely looksmart and searchfeed paid listings, some internal listings too,
searchfeed - largely findwhat paid listings, some internal listings too
goclick - internal paid listings
7search - internal paid listings, very few external listings (from findwhat)
epilot - largely external listings (from looksmart, 7search, goclick, kanoodle, search123, ah-ha)
brainfox - top 4 listings from looksmart, others internal listings.
findwhat - internal listings
looksmart - internal listings
ah-ha feeds to: revenuepilot,mygeek,search123, genieknows, blowsearch, engine54, abcsearch, + lots of smaller engines
kanoodle feeds to: blowsearch, findology, genieknows, searchboss, galaxysearch, abcsearch, + lots of smaller engines
search123 feeds to: turbofind (SIC) + lots of smaller engines
searchfeed feeds to: pageseeker, searchboss, search123, + thousands of smaller engines
goclick feeds to: 1stblaze (targetwords), + some smaller sites
7search feeds to: revenuepilot, genieknows, abcsearch, + some smaller sites
epilot feeds to: smaller engines
brainfox feeds to: smaller engines
findwhat feeds to: searchfeed, engine54
looksmart feeds to: epilot, search123, genieknows
I've only listed the 2nd tier ppcse's, and the major sites they feed to. All of 2nd tier ppcse's provide their results to thousands of unknow sites (impossible to list them).
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Gogiga
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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Posted: 2004-May-04 20:51
Does anyone get results from overture? excellent listing SW
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flyingrose
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Posted: 2004-May-12 05:11
I know you asked which search results are fed where, but you mentioned wanting to spend your dollars and are in the PPC forum so I'm guessing you are planning to run keyword ads. This information may help you decide.
Overture ads appear at Yahoo, MSN (for now), Alta Vista, Hot Bot, Lycos, Webcrawler, Dogpile and other sites.
Google ads appear at Google, AOL, Askjeeves, Earthlink, AT&T and other sites.
Between Google and Overture your ads will be seen by an estimated 90% of all online users.
There are other smaller Pay Per Click (PPC) services such as Findwhat which offer lower traffic, lower bids and additional coverage.
Kanoodle ads appear at Webcrawler, Dogpile, Metacrawler, CNET Search, CBS Market Watch and other sites.
Kanoodle signed a deal with MSNBC and Enhance has been selling banner ads on Yahoo.
All the above are subject to change as contracts expire.
Overture obviously feeds their search results many places based on the number of searches I see when I search with Ad Word Analyzer but so far I haven't found a list of exactly where.
[ Message was edited by: flyingrose 05/11/2004 09:36 pm ]
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sw
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Posted: 2004-May-14 03:10
I haven't seen many smaller and unknow search engines showing overture listings, actually I only ever saw 3 of those sites displaying overture results. And that was in the past.
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flyingrose
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Posted: 2004-May-15 09:32
None of the PPCs seems to want to reveal who their smaller partners are, perhaps to slow down other PPC companies wanting to solicite their business. Both Google and Overture do provide ads to many other places beyond those listed above or on their Web sites.
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sevensearchguy
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Posted: 2004-May-17 14:34
flyingrose said:
"None of the PPCs seems to want to reveal who their smaller partners are" - 
7Search provides a partial list of partners at http://payperranking.com.
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flyingrose
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Posted: 2004-May-24 06:19
Thank you, sevensearchguy....I know better than to use none, never or always. MOST PPCs prefer not to publish their complete lists, usually only mentioning the largest and best known.
Those who track their ROI can often determine where the clicks come from for each ad, thus determining what smaller partners display whose ads.
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openxs
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Posted: 2004-Jun-11 10:15
- Excellent List there SW
- Thanks sevensearchguy, I see the partner list, last is someone with 17xxxx alexa rank, I applied a month ago and my alexa rank was 2xxxxx and I was rejected. I can apply now, hopefully 
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dk
Joined: Jan 27, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jan-07 07:58
Yes we do.
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andyb0122
Joined: Apr 18, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Jun-02 20:28
They are all affiliates of one another guys. On some level all the ppc engines that take their own advertisers use each other as backfill.
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