More Virtual Promote ... Gazette · Webmaster & SEO Tools · Scumware.com · Free Website Templates

SEF

Search Engine Forums
Helping to make the Web - Since 1998
Hyperseek Search Engine
Login Password Forget your password?    Trouble Logging In?
.
Forums Index Active Topics New Topics My Topics Search My Profile Register Inbox   Rules & TOS
.
 
Forum Index · Search Engine Forums · Marketing , Traffic Building and Advertising · Pay Per Click - Google/Yahoo & Others · No Conversions from PPC
 
Remove from hotlist
Reply to this thread Create a New Topic in this forum
Mark This Forum Read
Printer Friendly Version Print this thread
Email this thread to a friend eMail this thread to a friend  
Moderator(s): flyingrose, MJR
Previous Topic Next Topic
Member Message

cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
# Posts: 203

View the profile for cfpa Send cfpa a private message

Posted: 09/07/2007 11:12 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

We're not getting any conversations from PPC. AT first I thought maybe the tracking wasn't set up properly but I tested it and saw the conversion come through. We've gotten a decent amount of clicks but no conversions. I'm not sure how to proceed. Any advice?



cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
# Posts: 203

View the profile for cfpa Send cfpa a private message

Posted: 09/07/2007 11:24 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

I also cannot understand why the bounce rate is so high for my campaigns this is an ad for a microbiology course we offer. The landing page is to this specific course summary page. If they can clearly see what it is from the ad, why would the bounce rate be 100%. It's not like we're being misleading.

Microbiology Introduction
Two-day introductory level course
$1440 - Molecular dynamics...
www.Mysite.com



flyingrose
Moderator
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
# Posts: 3361

View the profile for flyingrose Send flyingrose a private message

Posted: 09/11/2007 05:20 pm
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

First, if you have content on, turn it off. Next, understand that neither conversion tracking nor analytics tracks all conversions. For many Yahoo stores we're lucky if either one properly attributes 20-25% of sales correctly.

A high bounce rate could indicate wrong traffic or confusion about your landing page. If you're using broad matched keywords, replace them with phrase and exact. I no longer recommend any advertiser use broad match keywords and am mass deleting them across entire accounts that have made money with those successfully for years.

Make sure your landing page clearly and SIMPLY offers what the ads suggest. Less is more. Give them a clear, direct path to the action you wish them to take. Do not distract them with anything else.

Only a minimal amount of information should be on the landing page itself; provide links to additional information for those who want detail. That way you make the "I hate to read" and "I hate to think" visitors who are in the majority happy and still satisfy the others.



cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
# Posts: 203

View the profile for cfpa Send cfpa a private message

Posted: 09/12/2007 07:47 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

Thanks for your help. I turned content off. I don't use any broad matched keywords.

Our Landing page does have a lot of information but it is the information needed if someone wants to register for the course.

Our competitors just have people land on their homepage so I thought for sure, we are doing this better than they are. I have no idea what kind of results they get but I thought we were on the right track.



sem4u
Joined: Dec 16, 2003
# Posts: 258

View the profile for sem4u Send sem4u a private message

Posted: 09/12/2007 08:22 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

Why not test two versions of the page? Have one with a lot of information about the course and one with less information. Then keep the one that is converting best for you.



cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
# Posts: 203

View the profile for cfpa Send cfpa a private message

Posted: 09/12/2007 08:50 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

Definitely something to consider - I'd love to see successful landing pages for similar products to get a sense of what works.



flyingrose
Moderator
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
# Posts: 3361

View the profile for flyingrose Send flyingrose a private message

Posted: 09/17/2007 02:53 pm
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

I highly recommend landing on a page that has minimal wording and links to much more information. Most people hate to read and large amounts of information scare them off. Those who love to read will click on the additional information.

By laying out your site in this manner you will increase sales.



cfpa
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
# Posts: 203

View the profile for cfpa Send cfpa a private message

Posted: 09/18/2007 05:53 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

Can you provide me with an example of a good landing page. I thought that having a page directly related to the keywords with good information would be the best. Any examples would be very helpful. Thanks.



flyingrose
Moderator
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
# Posts: 3361

View the profile for flyingrose Send flyingrose a private message

Posted: 09/19/2007 01:13 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

That's a very good question and I do not recall having ever seen a site providing example landing pages. I'll see what I can dig up.

Your keywords should trigger ads specifically about the search done. Whatever the ads promise should be what the visitor finds when they arrive at your site. What precisely is on that landing page is what we're discussing now.

The main thing is to consider your target audience. They will range from those who want minimal information to those who thoroughly research everything they do. The Internet provides an easy way to satisfy both in that you can put only minimal information - like a summary of the main points - and a call to action showing them exactly where you wish them to go next.

Each main point can link to another page of information. In this manner those who hate to read or get easily confused can follow the obvious path and those who love to read and research can visit all or part of the other information you offer.

What many Web sites do incorrectly is assume that all visitors are the same, know what the site builders/owners know, or want to find out the same things. They just don't.

The more different types of potential buyers you can identify the more you can convert. This subject is covered extensively in the book Call to Action; however, that book is not an easy read.

I have a copy of the follow-up book Waiting for Your Cat to Bark. When I see it I can offer more about it.



pwcarguy
Joined: Jul 27, 2007
# Posts: 51

View the profile for pwcarguy Send pwcarguy a private message

Posted: 09/24/2007 11:13 am
Edit Message Delete Message Reply to this message

Most people hate to read and large amounts of information scare them off. Those who love to read will click on the additional information.


I wholeheartedly agree with this from a personal viewpoint, but I think it also really depends on your product and client base.

Did anyone happen to follow the SEOmoz landing page contest? The page that won was one of those long sales letter landing pages. While not a scientific test, it definitely made me think a little more broadly about what is required to convert.


 
Forum Index · Search Engine Forums · Marketing , Traffic Building and Advertising · Pay Per Click - Google/Yahoo & Others · No Conversions from PPC
Who's Online?
Reflects user activity within the last 5 minutes
Previous Topic Next Topic
You are not permitted to post messages in this forum or topic, because of one or more of the following reasons:
  1. You have not yet logged in, or registered properly as a member
  2. You are a member, but no longer have posting rights.
  3. This is a private forum, for which you do not have permissions.

If you are a recent member, it's possible that you simply have not yet confirmed your account. Please check your email for a message entitled 'JimWorld Forums: Confirm Your Account' and follow the instructions contained within.

If you cannot find this message, click here to Re-Send it.

If you are still experiencing problem, please read the Login Assistance Article for some advice on what may be causing your login not to work properly.

Switch to Advanced Editor and ... Create a New Topic or Reply to this Thread



Related Forum Topics
  1. To Do Adsense/PPC/SEO In China With Fewer Limits. (In: Contextual Advertising - Adsense & Others)
  2. How to do PPC/SEO/High Ranking To China?? (In: Other Search Engines)



© 1995 - 2006  ·  iWeb, Inc  ·  DBA JimWorld Productions