rcjordan
Joined: Feb 27, 2000
# Posts: 275
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Posted: 2000-May-12 12:06
I'm not complaining, but I am more than a little curious... all of a sudden, I'm getting hits from LookSmart under very competitive terms in the travel trades. Upon checking, I find that some of my sites are listed (with good descriptions that are not mine) under a section called "Reviewed Web Sites from LookSmart Editors" --the INK logo is not on the bottow of this section, btw.
I've never submitted to LS, so apparently these editors are going about deep-linking me on their own.
[A] THANKS, EDITORS!
Anything I can do to help?
I wasn't aware of any efforts to build the LS directory except by paid submission. Anyone know more about this?[This message has been edited by rcjordan (edited 05-26-2000).]
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jkiok
Joined: Nov 14, 1999
# Posts: 71
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Posted: 1999-Nov-26 18:26
Hi. I started to bid the other day in goto.com. After running the WPG report today, I saw that my other UN-BID keywords ranked much higher (terribly higher) than 2 days before.Does GOTO give your domain a boost once you bid? or did they just update their databases just last night? Anyway, I'm not complaining. 
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celife
Joined: Dec 29, 2000
# Posts: 580
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Posted: 2001-May-18 21:22
I'm currently with goto, findwhat, kanoodle, brainfox, and about to begin with sprinks.As I understand it, searchcactus.com visitors (and other of its sort) are not useful because they are not likely to convert into sales. Which PPCs use such results, and is it possible to just say no. I chose the option on kanoodle that avoids this...how about other PPCs that I have joined or ones that I've not yet joined?
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Alan_Thompson
Joined: Apr 30, 2000
# Posts: 441
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Posted: 2000-May-23 03:31
Congratulations!I usually dread the thought of a directory adding my sites on their own without a little "guidance" but it sounds like they did you justice.
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dave123
Joined: Nov 19, 1999
# Posts: 7
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Posted: 1999-Nov-27 12:56
Noticed the same thing with my site !
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valleyalley
Joined: Apr 30, 2001
# Posts: 11
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Posted: 2001-May-18 21:49
Your best bet is to contact each ppc directly and ask them if they use it.some do and some dont.I can speak for ourselves (ValleyAlley.com),That we dont use any search partners that reward their users.
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jkiok
Joined: Nov 14, 1999
# Posts: 71
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Posted: 1999-Nov-27 13:32
It's kinda unfair... but I'm not complaining !
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celife
Joined: Dec 29, 2000
# Posts: 580
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Posted: 2001-May-18 22:34
thanks for your reply
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johno
Joined: Nov 15, 1999
# Posts: 693
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Posted: 1999-Dec-02 20:54
Just wondering what you mean by "bidding" on GoTo.com.johno
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GoEurope
Joined: Feb 23, 2001
# Posts: 36
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Posted: 2001-May-19 14:15
celife,No reputable PPC engine would use any type incentivised partner.
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johno
Joined: Nov 15, 1999
# Posts: 693
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Posted: 1999-Dec-02 20:56
Nevermind. Just found out the answer. Thanks anyway.johno
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celife
Joined: Dec 29, 2000
# Posts: 580
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Posted: 2001-May-19 21:59
GoEurope, there are some cases where this could arise through various circumstances. Here is an email I rec'd today from Goto.com trying to find out about if they were affiliated with searchcactus.com:GoTo is not in affiliation with SearchCactus.com, however GoTo's results
do appear on their site due to a partnership we have with Ask Jeeves. Just
so you know the listings on Search Cactus are designated by a visual of an
eye logo next to the listing, to let the user know that they will get
compensated $.02 for a click. The second group of listings which are
GoTo's results does not have the identifying eye logo, and users are not
compensated for the click. We do not pay any of our partners incentives
nor are they compensated to search on a GoTo listing. Unfortunately, due
to our agreement with Ask Jeeves we cannot restrict your listings from
appearing on Search Cactus.
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macomb
Joined: Dec 07, 1999
# Posts: 3
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Posted: 1999-Dec-07 14:27
So share your answer 
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chrisuk
Joined: Mar 16, 2001
# Posts: 315
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Posted: 2001-May-23 12:00
PPCs that pay affiliates to search is not always a bad thing providing it is very tightly monitored. However too often we see occasions where the regulatory controls are just not good enough. If you are depending on good sales conversion then avoid it, however many sites just want traffic flow for little or no reason or maybe to build brand awareness or to community build.See this thread for my views on this http://searchengineforums.com/Forum34/HTML/000094.html Its very dependent on what kind of advertiser you are and what you want to gain from your inbound traffic. Chris
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johno
Joined: Nov 15, 1999
# Posts: 693
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Posted: 1999-Dec-08 16:09
This will tell you all about it.
http://www.goto.com/d/about/advertisers/;$sessionid$UP10CRYADXCHJQFIEFAQPUQ johno
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celife
Joined: Dec 29, 2000
# Posts: 580
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Posted: 2001-May-23 16:02
I've discovered more since posting...namely that although Goto's listings may appear on searchcactus.com, that those who've signed up with searchcactus's listing will not be paid to click on Goto listings...so that's good.Thanks for your reply, chrisuk. I can see how some people would want the general traffic searchcactus would generate...but not as I am trying to target non-compensated searchers.
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Xavior
Joined: May 29, 2001
# Posts: 6
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Posted: 2001-May-29 23:03
I've been using SearchHound for a few months now. Recently, I bid on a popular keyword and BOOM, I was suddenly receiving 100-150 hits a day from them. So yay for me. Until I started wondering why the sales weren't pouring in. Yep, Searchhound is affiliated with searchcactus.com & people are getting paid to ignore my site's content. So there goes that. An option on Searchhound's site can keep your listings off such incentive-based search engines. So 20 days, 2000 visitors and 50$ later, I'm back to receiving my regular dose of 3-5 visitors from their leads. At least those are worth it.
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celife
Joined: Dec 29, 2000
# Posts: 580
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Posted: 2001-May-30 03:07
Thanks very much for the heads up on Searchhound.
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OSOS
Joined: Nov 09, 2000
# Posts: 24
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Posted: 2001-May-30 19:56
I have stopped using SearchHound and SearchCactus as well as a few other PPC Incentive based engines. They gave me traffic but, no sales. The funny thing is with SearchHound. They never notified me (or it's users) that they were going to partner with SearchCactus. I was with SearchHound for months with an average click through to my site about 1 per day (so, basically a few cents a day was charged). All of a sudden, my account was wiped out in one day - I notified SearchHound many times and never got a response back - forget them - very poor/terrible Customer Service. Then, a few days later, they post their partner and an email is sent out - great, after $50! was spent in one day! Also be aware of SearchFuel.com (I think they changed their name) - many fradulent clicks with them. Some PPC engines such have gave me credit due to them but, SearchFuel is very tricky. I just stick with the basic PPC SE's. I used to advertise on all of them and have been slowly cutting back. My traffic has dropped but, my sales are up - that tells me that many of these PPC Search Engines are full of it!
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celife
Joined: Dec 29, 2000
# Posts: 580
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Posted: 2001-May-31 00:14
Thanks for your insights OSOS...it's as important to know what to avoid as it is to know what works.
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