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jimdomains
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Posted: 12/01/2004 01:53 pm
Assuming that 5%-10% is a good number for a given keyword, if you have a page that has 100 words on it and you use 10 of your keywords 10 times, adding up to the total of 100, will any of those phrases work against each other?
Will a search engine figure that your page is ranked #1 for one keyword so it cannot rank #1 for other keywords on the same page?
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g1smd
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Posted: 12/02/2004 02:42 pm
A page like that would not consist of anything that even closely resembled "natural language", so I would really hope that it would get marked down for spamming.
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jimdomains
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Posted: 12/03/2004 07:56 am
g1smd,
It's just a question to illustrate a point - not me getting information on how to build a spam page 
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St0n3y
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Posted: 12/03/2004 10:48 am
Keywords won't cancel each other out. There is no magic keyword density that would apply to all keywords and the density of one does not cancel the density of another. Each word is analyzied independantly.
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g1smd
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Posted: 12/03/2004 12:20 pm
What I was trying to say is that if your entire content is just 10 keywords, repeated, then that page cannot consist of natural language and is therefore worthless to searchers.
Just taking 3 repeats of 3 words it matters not whether the text says:
red green blue red green blue red green blue
or
red red red green green green blue blue blue
it just isn't useful content.
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jimdomains
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Posted: 12/03/2004 12:47 pm
"Just taking 3 repeats of 3 words it matters not whether the text says:
red green blue red green blue red green blue
or
red red red green green green blue blue blue
it just isn't useful content. "
You seem to be missing the point. Perhaps I should have just said if I have "2" separate keywords in there 10 times each and 80 other words which were just content.
example - if I had "apples" as a keyword and "oranges" as another, would the fact that I was ranked #1 for "apples", have ANY effect on my ranking for "oranges"?
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jimdomains
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Posted: 12/03/2004 12:50 pm
Ston3y - thanks for your answer.
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jimdomains
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Posted: 12/03/2004 12:54 pm
So in theory then...it is possible for the same page to be ranked #1 in the SE's for tens or even hundreds of keywords or phrases. Correct?
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St0n3y
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Posted: 12/06/2004 02:15 pm
Sure, but possible and plausible are two separate things, at least when competitive terms are considered. When analyzing my server logs I am often amazed at the phrases used to find our site. Top rankings are achieved for keywords we wouldn't even think to target, nor want to for that matter. All part of the "residual" effect of an optimization campaign targeting other keyword phrases.
Keep in mind, that while you CAN achieve results from many keywords on a single page, if you are trying to target your most important phrases, its always best to limit to 3-5 phrases per page.
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