dudibob
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
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Posted: 03/26/2008 03:39 am
And then you have the clients demands;
I don't want to say that on my website!
I don't want that there!
I don't want you to do this!
I don't want that!
now, make me number1 on the SE's
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marketpi
Joined: Mar 20, 2008
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Posted: 03/26/2008 06:45 pm
I don't agree that.
just because commercial social is unfair. we have so much useless information on web and what SEO do is to increase their radio
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animated3d
Joined: Dec 22, 2005
# Posts: 352
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Posted: 03/26/2008 08:11 pm
"I don't agree that.
just because commercial social is unfair. we have so much useless information on web and what SEO do is to increase their radio "
whats useless to us might be useful for others 
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reflection
Joined: May 23, 2007
# Posts: 20
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Posted: 03/27/2008 03:11 am
Ethical SEO is always helpful for a website. But new and unknown seo guys are following unethical methods, and their sites have to give penalty for their deeds.
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Quadrille
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Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 989
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Posted: 03/27/2008 03:25 am
"whats useless to us might be useful for others"
Very true, and we all put stuff on the web in the belief that it may be useful to someone, somewhere.
Except spammers, who fill the web with cr*p in the certain knowledge that it's cr*p.
Let's face it, many spammers exist on the 'exit fee' provided by Adsense when people leave their sad, useless sites. Luckily, people seem to learning to use Adsense as a 'tip', rewarding good sites, and not tipping the bad. Not always fair for advertisers, but a still greater incentive to only advertise on Quality sites.
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noraq
Joined: Mar 27, 2008
# Posts: 1
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Posted: 03/27/2008 02:20 pm
Very true. Honest business is not about spam. Spam protocols are easily identified by search engines anyways. It's about building proper customer relationships and letting people know about product or service. Eventually the rankings will come once everything is in place.
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yellowwing
Moderator
Joined: May 21, 2002
# Posts: 2524
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Posted: 04/02/2008 05:42 pm
"Excell: The real fact is - there is no such thing as SEO. :p"
LOL Its up to the Google Engineers to Optimize their Search Engine!
We have a much easier job; Optimize a limited amount of web space. And it is soo much easier to do it ethically, and you actually present a more positive message for the client site.
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razzaq
Joined: Apr 03, 2008
# Posts: 1
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Posted: 04/03/2008 11:06 pm
Hi, This post of yours is very beneficial and informative, however there are some specific facts or information that I require. If anyone can help me in this matter then please send me a private message.
Best Regards,
[ Message was edited by: Dinkar 04/04/2008 02:00 am ... Reason: Sig. edited as per TOS ]
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seowebsitetraffic
Joined: Apr 13, 2008
# Posts: 5
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Posted: 04/13/2008 10:43 am
If we don't make these below 10 SEO mistake. It will not be SPAM.
1. Targetting the wrong keywords
2. Ignoring the Title tag
3. A Flash website without a html alternative
4. JavaScript Menus
5. Lack of consistency and maintenance
6. Concentrating too much on meta tags
7. Using only Images for Headings
8. Ignoring URLs
9. Backlink spamming
10. Lack of keywords in the content
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Dinkar
Moderator
Joined: Aug 12, 2001
# Posts: 4268
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Posted: 04/13/2008 11:42 am
9. Backlink spamming
This point is the only correct point.
All others points are wrong. Those points has nothing to do with spamming.
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Dinkar
Moderator
Joined: Aug 12, 2001
# Posts: 4268
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Posted: 04/13/2008 11:47 am
FYI, seowebsitetraffic is a link dropper. He posted those points to promote his site. So here is one more point from him
11. Spamming forums with useless and wrong information just to drop your link.
Is it a SEO mistake or Spam? Discuss....
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Quadrille
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Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 989
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Posted: 04/13/2008 12:05 pm
Probably neither.
It's clearly intended to be forum spam - but when it's so wrong and so badly presented, the chances of anyone being convinced is close to zero.
On his list of spamming tips (I'm sure he has one), #2 must be 'don't bother to match your message to your target audience' - because his outlandish inaccuracy stands out a mile.
Why is that all most spammers want is 'visitors', when eny fule kno that it's business, not bums on seats, that matters.
Funny old world
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reflection
Joined: May 23, 2007
# Posts: 20
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Posted: 04/15/2008 05:26 am
Ethical SEO generate traffic and leads for your website. Black hat SEO techniques are regarded as spamy techniques by search engines.
So SEO is not all about spam.
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dudibob
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
# Posts: 1403
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Posted: 04/15/2008 06:36 am
spammings a numbers game, throw enough people at anything and someone will buy, it's why spamming is still around.
Where unlike SEO (or the modern SEO anyway) where we try and make the best user experience and make sure they buy our stuff!
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reflection
Joined: May 23, 2007
# Posts: 20
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Posted: 04/18/2008 03:06 am
Due to this reason ethical SEO is not spam. But there are certain SEO professional using unethical SEO to get rank quickly.
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chrisgamuyao
Joined: Apr 16, 2008
# Posts: 3
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Posted: 04/18/2008 10:53 am
i agree with your statement. the way the IT professional look beyond the word SEO is a sort of pretending. you get what i mean? SEO is inlined with their specialization so it is unquestionable that they know about SEO. "if i say I'll go for it" something like this even though they know they are wrong. search engine actually helps my site to be on top on the major search engine. if you want to know more just browse on the link below.
[ Message was edited by: Dinkar 04/18/2008 11:19 am ... Reason: URL edited as per TOS. ]
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reflection
Joined: May 23, 2007
# Posts: 20
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Posted: 04/27/2008 10:34 pm
Sorry, there is no link below.
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mini_
Joined: Apr 28, 2008
# Posts: 2
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Posted: 04/28/2008 06:30 am
Hey!
I do not agree with people who think that SEO is spam.
SEO is a profitable way to improve your benefits. It beats media like TV and radio in means of advertising. I do agree that there are a lot of SEO companies who think they know the trick but don't know anything about it. But there are some companies that offer good services and solutions for your website like Conba
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lorel
Joined: May 05, 2008
# Posts: 6
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Posted: 05/05/2008 09:05 pm
A good judge of an honest SEO person should be how long they've been doing SEO and if their website and their client's sites are still up after several years. A black hat SEO would likely have several sites penalized/banned/disappeared.
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mini_
Joined: Apr 28, 2008
# Posts: 2
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Posted: 05/07/2008 01:02 am
That's correct! How longer a company is doing SEO, how more experience they gain. Like Conba, they are in the SEM business for more than 5 years with 300 satisfied customers. Not a single website is/was banned by Google!
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