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sparks634
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Aug-28 11:48
hello good people hope you are feeling okay. We have taken over another site which has a good page rank and pleanty of links going to it. We have 301 redirted to my site. I have heard that all the links and page rank and such will move over to my site. However some have told me that they will count for nothing what is the truth my friends. IF they do move over how long to you think it would take for them link it over to us
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usaweb
Joined: Aug 14, 2007
# Posts: 12
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Posted: 2007-Aug-28 13:16
hi,
First i want to confirm ur doubt 301 redirect i.e.,The code "301" is interpreted as "moved permanently". After the code, the URL of the missing or renamed page is noted, followed by a space, then followed by the new location or file name.
PHP Redirect
<?
Header( "HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently" );
Header( "Location: http://www.new-url.com" );
?>
How to implement the 301 Redirect
1. To create a .htaccess file, open notepad, name and save
the file as .htaccess (there is no extension).
2. If you already have a .htaccess file on your server,
download it to your desktop for editing.
3. Place this code in your .htaccess file:
redirect 301 / http://www.abc.com/
4. If the .htaccess file already has lines of code in it,
skip a line, then add the above code.
5. Save the .htaccess file
6. Upload this file to the root folder of your server.
7. Test it by typing in the old address to the page you've
changed. You should be immediately taken to the new
location.
[ Message was edited by: Dinkar 08/28/2007 08:32 am ... Reason: Sig. edited as per TOS. ]
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 08/28/2007 11:14 am ... Reason: Broken Code Fixed ]
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sparks634
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Aug-28 13:55
so then after i have done that what happens with the links and the page ranks that that site had already built up. I had heard that this will end up counting for nouting and other who have told me they will all be transfreded over
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SportsGuy
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Joined: Aug 30, 2002
# Posts: 3603
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Posted: 2007-Aug-28 14:38
Here's the deal.
Typically 301 redirects are used internally within a site when content gets moved form say, one folder to another.
The goal is to let the engines know that the content has moved, and keep any bookmarks user shave useful for them.
If you redirect one domain to another, there are some serious considerations to make:
1 - are both domains on the same topic?
2 - what is the history of each domain - what content has been on either domain in the past - are they related?
3 - SEO benefits may be minimal, but at leats user's bookmarks will remain intact
4 - if you ever remove the 301 redirect, all links into the new domain that came via that 301 will cease to work.
Basically, if you are going to do what you've already done, you need to know that while users will get redirected to the new domain when they click on a link pointing to the old domain, the engines will not assign the same PR vales to the new domain as they did to the original domain.
Here's an example:
Domain A is the original
Domain B is the new one
Domain C links to Domain A
In the original state of things, Domain A exists and Domain C has a link pointed to it.
You buy Domain A and redirect it to YOUR domain, Domain B.
Now, that link over at Domain C is still valid - meaning when a user clicks it, they still get to a website - in this case, the now end up at Domain B.
That will hold true for all links pointed at Domain A - anyone clicks on a link leading there, they will be bumped over to Domain B.
Now, the engines see the link from Domain C to Domain A and they assign a value to that link relationship base don their own algorithms.
Fine - a good link from Domain C to Domain A helps Domain A with its rankings - nothing new there.
Trouble is, when you redirect Domain A to Domain B, the engines re-evaluate the value they assigned to that link from Domain C in the first place - after all, Domain A doesn't have any content anymore - it's just a redirect to Domain B now - thus the value of that inbound link that's being redirected is usually lessened.
Bottom line:
Do not depend on 301s to keep PR values and rankings intact - it usually won't work out for you. 
Many, many spammers have used this technique and the engines are wise to it.
...and usaweb - you might want to read out rules here (even the ones right inside the post box where you type responses) that state we do not allow link drops or self promotion or signatures.  That link will be removed shortly by an Admin - better you get to it first.
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sparks634
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Aug-28 15:51
right oh we have just taken over a few site so i will see what we can do not look like we are spamming.
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SportsGuy
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Joined: Aug 30, 2002
# Posts: 3603
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Posted: 2007-Aug-28 17:41
Just to be clear for you - doing this will not label you as a spammer. I mentioned that because spammers have abused this in the past - there is no automatic assumption YOU are a spammer because you're doing it.
The best thing I can say is to not put all your eggs in this basket. Using the 301 redirect is not a sure-fire way to keep page rank, etc. when you transfer an old domain to a new one.
It'll help keep users moving in the right direction, but in the end, the new domain will need to stand on its own - have its own inbound links, etc., to rank well.
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