excell
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Posted: 2008-Feb-03 17:25
MS wants to buy Yahoo in order to stay competitive..
what are your thoughts on this development?
Will they make a difference if it happens?
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Prowler
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Posted: 2008-Feb-04 09:26
MS needs to consolidate their search engine position by adding Yahoo. The way they have been going about it - indicates they are serious in presenting a tough competition to Google. They have added Webmaster Central - similar to Google.
For the end user, competition helps the cause. Google has been at the top - unchallenged for a long time. It is about time someone posed a serious competition.
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2008-Feb-04 23:09
This is an interesting 'Google' view:
[link]
that blog often gives an insider view.
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Curt
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Posted: 2008-Feb-05 05:53
Too bad another company doesn't want to buy Yahoo. Don't like the idea that M$ wants to buy them.
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Prowler
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Posted: 2008-Feb-05 13:13
>>Don't like the idea that M$ wants to buy them.
I am not a great fan of monolithic entities controlling our lives either. But this time M$ may be the only serious competition against another single entity.
Even with Yahoo under their belt, M$ still can't take on Google when it comes to search engine space.
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excell
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Posted: 2008-Feb-05 16:25
Although - I do have to say that in viewing stats both msn & yahoo visitors are on the increase...
It's feeble, but it would be darn good to have something come in closer to google referals - wouldn't it? - be more fun and all?
Talking about free search there. I have no real idea of what results are turning up on PPC but I guess Google has the monopoly.
Quadrille - I love the graphic in your link! (scarey stuff!)
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Prowler
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Posted: 2008-Feb-07 08:06
>> Quadrille - I love the graphic in your link! (scarey stuff!)
bluejay,aardvark,cabbage and dogfish are some of the variable names he has used - Imaginative.
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Quadrille
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Posted: 2008-Feb-07 10:50
>> Quadrille - I love the graphic in your link! (scarey stuff!)
> bluejay,aardvark,cabbage and dogfish are some of the variable names he has used - Imaginative.
I hope you are talking about gnal (he who did the excellent graphic).
I've never used any of those names.
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mj1256
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
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Posted: 2008-Feb-07 15:07
i think MS is in trouble.
Vista is a disaster and open source products are hurting thier bottom line. Developers are tired of the proprietary and locked code and all the bugs and issues, Everything you use on an enterprise level cost $$$$$ for licenses and up front cost. Internationally the trend is to move toward linux products.
MS innovates nothing, they wait for others to inovate and then add it to their products. Just look at the browser wars. Opera and firefox invent, MS then steals.
MS will need to reinvent itself and re-establish its monopolies in order to retain control of the industry. The Yahoo effort is part of the plan to regain control of the internet.
not an MS fan 
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guinanie
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Posted: 2008-Feb-07 15:44
It is a good news for us and it happens because they want to compete Google.
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jeany1114
Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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Posted: 2008-Feb-07 15:50
If the merging of these two players happen, it's going to be an interesting competition - and a big threat for Google
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Quadrille
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Posted: 2008-Feb-07 16:02
No.
Google + Clear Blue Water = M$ + Yahoo!
It'll be *less* potential competition, as M$ will kill off any creativity that Yahoo! has, and it has very little of its own.
And it'll take so long doing that - and other acts of vandalism as it assimilates Yahoo! - that Google will get even further ahead.
The way to beat Google is by doing something BETTER than Google - not reducing the competition further.
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Curt
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Posted: 2008-Feb-09 23:49
mj1256
i think MS is in trouble. Vista is a disaster and open source products are hurting thier bottom line.
Yep, perhaps MS is feeling the pinch. I mentioned in another thread about MS making .docx and .xlsx (latest default word and excel document formats) cryptic in order to thwart OpenOffice from being able to read MS docs. If people are smart, they'll simply move everything to OpenOffice and cut out MS altogether.
Quadrille you may have a very good point. Perhaps MS will inadvertantly kill Yahoo if it does aquire it—guess we'll see how that plays out. Remember Googlezon?
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Quadrille
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Posted: 2008-Feb-10 00:41
Ah, Googlezon ... always worth another look. So wrong, and yet so right!
Thing is, so much of Yahoo is just like M$ - the portal stuff, the social stuff - all a little dated, now. And the bits that are unlike are *so* unlike; flickr and so on; that the culture shock will drive out the movers.
Anywhere that Yahoo! has innovated, the culture is much closer to Google than M$, anywhere that it hasn't, M$ has it already.
So *all* they are doing is taking out a player. There's really no plus to the marriage, except for shareholders. And that's a short-term gain for most.
Those that want *more* competition for Google are deluded if they favour this. The ony real challenge to google will be ideas, technology, innovation ... not mere size.
M$ have ALWAYS been at the forefront of 'standards', and have *always* set out to undermine them. And they have zero insight into their attitude probem, that's the worry!
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beth_lk
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Posted: 2008-Feb-10 04:11
yahoo currently is saying "no" to MSN offer - see other thread about it in Members Forum 
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