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SportsGuy
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Posted: 02/28/2008 02:46 pm
Hey gang.
I'm looking for something very specific.
I'm after a website (or page) that has been particularly designed:
1 - it should be a basic html/aspx page
2 - if should have flash incorporated as a main element within the page
3 - it should be, overall, optimized for search
Anyone have any examples of such an animal that they can point me to?
I'm trying to illustrate to someone that you can design an attractive webpage, integrate flash into it AND have not just a great user experience, but also a well optimized webpage.
Rather than trying to optimize an entire site made in flash, I'm advocating they buidl the site as normal and use the flash only for the glossy bits to really stand out.
Thanks for any help gang.
Duane
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Dinkar
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Posted: 02/29/2008 07:24 am
I think you can have flash website and optimized site, both at a time.
You need two versions of the site - Flash and non-Flash.
If the visitor's browser is flash capable then show the flash site else non-flash site. It means search engines will get non-flash site. You optimize this version to get high ranking.
But choosing a version should be done at server side. I don't know if it's possible or not. I never tried to do so.
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 02/29/2008 09:01 am
Agreed - but I'm after examples for specific sites that have blended flash into the html pages - incorporating the gee-whiz factor of flash into a normal page that's well optimized - rather than an entire site as flash & html (saying html for simplicity here).
Here's an example I found.
Movie on right, text on left - that kind of presentation can save you work IF:
- you cannot scope resources to build both version (flash/html) - such as for a short turn-around campaign
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Dinkar
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Posted: 02/29/2008 10:13 am
Personally, I don't like such pages because they look ugly in non-flash browsers.
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Prowler
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Posted: 03/03/2008 01:18 am
There is another example here: [link]
This page has a Flash menu at the top with plain vanilla HTML code behind. It may look ugly and unimaginative though. 
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Hampstead
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Posted: 03/03/2008 01:39 am
I've sent you a pm with a link to a site that I have worked on. I didn't want to put the link here for self promo reasons.
The site works well on Google UK and has some flash elements combined with optimised content.
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Prowler
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Posted: 03/03/2008 03:11 am
Hampstead - You can show the link here as long as it is not intended to be self promotional.
SportsGuy has started this thread specifically for the reason of discussing techniques and methodologies of incorporating Flash inside HTML without sacrificing on SEO. 
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Hampstead
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Posted: 03/03/2008 04:21 am
I'm not sure it's exactly what Sporty is looking for.
It has some flash elements - mostly for effect - but does not use flash in any interactive way (or as a main element as per the request).
I'll wait and see if Sporty thinks it's relevant before posting a link.
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