impulsum
Joined: May 21, 2008
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Posted: 2008-May-22 01:41
I am working on a website, with a lot of products. I am using the alt attribute text for pictures, but all my products on that particular page have the same brand. Can I use the brand name with different model for every picture, or can use the brand name only a view times in that page?
Is this keywords stuffing, or am I allowed to do it this way?
Example :
alcatel 323 phone
alcatel 529 Telephone
alcatel 898 Phone
Or do i need to do it like this
323 phone
529 Telephone
898 Phone
I have like 30 products in each page of dat brand.
Kind Regards,
Edwin
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 05/26/2008 10:06 am ... Reason: Fixed Typo ]
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
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Posted: 2008-May-22 09:19
The golden rule is that if the repetition looks stupid, it is.
"Over optimisation" is a major cause of sick site syndrome, and keyword stuffing is the classic case.
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dudibob
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
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Posted: 2008-May-22 09:32
I'd leave out the brand and place it in the H1 and title tag 
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sem4u
Joined: Dec 16, 2003
# Posts: 262
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Posted: 2008-May-22 10:15
Just call the picture what it is...and it is an alt attribute by the way
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freeflyer
Joined: Aug 06, 2007
# Posts: 211
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Posted: 2008-May-25 17:51
okay.. the solution is simple.
If your page that you are referring to is the category page for all the alcatel product range, then that page should be themed for 'Alcatel phone/s' and related big traffic keywords, and the alt tags should do the same. Dont mention the models at this point on this page UNLESS the image is also a link into the receiving product page, in which case then that alt tag (and image title attribute) should contain the receiving pages main terms ie 'alcatel gx330'.
The relevant receiving product page should then be themed for the model name ie 'alcatel gx330', and so should the alt tags.. Simple.
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beth_lk
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Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Posted: 2008-May-25 18:18
It is better to leave the alt attribute blank than it is to over use a key word/phrase.
So say you have just phones on your site as graphics - I would not give all eight ( using that number as an example only ) the alt attribute "phone" - I would leave most of them blank.
My opinion
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 05/25/2008 12:58 pm ... Reason: Fixed Typo ]
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 1064
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Posted: 2008-May-25 19:02
I see where you are coming from, Beth, but that would not be right.
ALT attributes' reason to be is to help with accessibility issues; so each telephone picture should be ALT'd appropriately.
BTW, Where a 'spacer' or other empty image is used, the correct alt is " ".
From an SEO POV, the problem isn't the ALT, but the number of producrs per page.
As well as being crowded, confusing and possibly slow to load for humans, 30 products from an SEO angle - especially in a highly competitive market - is not wise.
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beth_lk
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Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Posted: 2008-May-26 16:59
I rethought my response and came back to today to correct it. But Quad did it for me lol
The main reason for using the alt attributes seems to have been forgotten by many, and they now seem think they are acting as some sort of silver bullet for SEO. They're not. 
Quad is right - if you are "stuffing" alt attributes then get rid of some images.
[ Message was edited by: JimBot 05/26/2008 10:04 am ... Reason: Fixed Typo ]
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impulsum
Joined: May 21, 2008
# Posts: 2
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Posted: 2008-May-27 00:06
Thanks for all the amswers, but iam still not sure what is the right one. Is there anybody that is sure about this?
Each picture in that page is going to a seperated product page.
Thanks for everybodys help.
Kind Regards,
Edwin
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animated3d
Joined: Dec 22, 2005
# Posts: 419
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Posted: 2008-May-27 00:19
i would choose 2 keywords for that site on my ALT's then for the rest dont use any ALT optimization, no seo is better then to over optimize it and do the site more bad then good
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Quadrille
Joined: Nov 15, 2000
# Posts: 1064
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Posted: 2008-May-27 06:01
Forget SEO for that page; there are too many products to hope to excel in any one.
Just provide a short, concise, accurate description for each product in the ALT text. 'phone nokia 3456' etc.
Make sure the product pages do the SEO job for your site.
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freeflyer
Joined: Aug 06, 2007
# Posts: 211
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Posted: 2008-May-27 07:43
"Thanks for all the amswers, but iam still not sure what is the right one. Is there anybody that is sure about this? "
welcome to the incredibly frustrating world of community SEO
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g1smd
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Joined: Jul 28, 2002
# Posts: 10438
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Posted: 2008-May-27 10:33
There is no one right way to do this, but there are many sub-optimum or wrong ones.
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dudibob
Joined: Oct 13, 2005
# Posts: 1462
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Posted: 2008-May-27 10:59
it's great to hear other peoples views on this sort of thing and G1 has sumed up SEO in general, not just Alt tags
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