CharlieW
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Posted: 1998-Sep-17 22:34
I think I'm missing the concept regarding "descriptions" and "keywords". Would you please check out www.buildingdefects.com and give me some advice? Can you also tell me (short version) the purpose of the "keyword" and "description" from the SE's point of view?
As you've probably guessed, I'm a stranger in a strange land.
Thanks bunches.
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wil
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Posted: 1998-Dec-03 20:31
I have a twofold question here: I've looked at a lot of doorways and often see gigantic font sizes. I assume there is some reason for this? Do certain search engines put more weight on keywords with large sizes?
Secondly, are doorways of any real use in Alta Vista?
Thanks
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Monte
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Posted: 1999-Oct-25 12:49
hey all.
I'd like the Quick reference to submitting A Dynamic DB driven site. If anybody has some wuick and dirty info on how to go about doing this I'd be very happy.
thx in advance,
Monte
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danderson
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Posted: 2001-Jan-31 17:26
I was wondering if too much stuff in the head tag can hurt you in a search engine? Like the sometimes long winded <script language> javascript tags?
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Jambo
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Posted: 1998-Sep-18 01:21
yup. Your meta description tag looks more like keywords. On some SE's (I thinks it's AV, Excite, HB, and IS) they will use the Description tag, if there is one, and provide that with your listing on the results display. It gives an indication to the user about what's on your site.
On some SE's, they will use your your title, keywords meta, and sometimes your description tags to influence rankings. Perhaps only HB and IS do this. Some SE's like AV seem to rank higher sites with no metas!
If you've already submitted your site, I would fix your discription tag quick. Once it gets listed it will stay a long time. Check spelling! Make it read more like a little ad for what's on your site.
The keywords meta--perhaps too many terms there. Fewer terms may give those remaining more weight. Whether or not to use commas or spaces is an archane science I leave to the placement high priests.
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Mikkel Svendsen
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Posted: 1998-Dec-05 05:40
Hi Wil,
As far as I know doorway pages will work for all search engines - if you design them well...
About the fontsize I only think that H1-H6 tags gives a higher weight.
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Mikkel Svendsen
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Posted: 1999-Oct-25 19:00
Hi Monte,I will suggest that you start by reading up on the old threads in this forum. You will find a lot of the answers there. But generally speaking there is just one major problem... ?-marks 
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klovn
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Posted: 2001-Jan-31 20:23
JavaScript reduces your chances of scoring high in a keyword search because it dilutes keyword density. JavaScript placed in the <head> section of the document is pushing the actual text content far lower on the page. This is hurting keyword relevancy.If you must use javascript, place the code in an external .js file.
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DianeV
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Posted: 1998-Sep-18 04:54
The "description" meta tag is the description of a web page which some search engines display under the title when listing responses to a search ... they describe what the page is about. As a made-up example:
Beverly Hills Dog Care (title)
Kennel and dog grooming service to the stars. Your pet's home away from home. (description)
"Keywords" are words related to the subject of the web page which people may use at search engines to search for a topic. For instance, in the above example: dogs, kennels, dog grooming, etc.
If you have a string of keywords where your description should be, it will look pretty strange in search engines which use the meta descriptions.
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wil
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Posted: 1998-Dec-09 05:09
Well, that's certainly explain some sites I've seen. Thanks
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Jim
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Posted: 2001-Jan-31 21:13
klovn, what's the current thinking on putting the Javascript at the end of the page, even after the body tag?
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CharlieW
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Posted: 1998-Sep-18 09:33
Jambo,
I re-did the description and removed some of the repeated keywords. I think I got lucky. It looks like the first SEs to spider the site were IS and Northern Light. Apparently neither is concerned with the description. IS doesn't add one and NL used something acceptable but different.
Using the search "EIFS inspection" both IS and NL ranked me 1st. Thanks to you, maybe the rest will give me a good ranking also.
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danderson
Joined: Jan 31, 2001
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Posted: 2001-Jan-31 21:40
I have not had any experience with external .js files. Does anyone know of a place to get more info? Maybe a tutorial?
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CharlieW
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Posted: 1998-Sep-18 09:39
DianeV,
The simplest definitions I've seen anywhere. Thanks, cause I'm a really simple guy.
These VM boards are excellent. I've read most of 'em and they are extremely helpful.
May the Search Engine Gods smile down upon you!
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Jim
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Posted: 2001-Jan-31 22:26
You will find JS information at our sister forum -Get High Traffic
http://gethighforums.com Look in the CGI, Javascript.... forum.
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DianeV
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Posted: 1998-Sep-18 10:07
Well, thank you so much! I'm still studying the Forums myself, trying to get a handle on the whole thing. I find it's one thing to write a website, but quite another to know where to go from there!
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SearchEngineer
Joined: Oct 30, 2000
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Posted: 2001-Feb-01 09:05
You could also try Webmonkey.com . I find them very useful (even if they are part of the Lycos Über-network).Just a quick thought regarding klovn's comment about externals - would it be wise to assume that placing CSS information within an external file would also be wise? [This message has been edited by SearchEngineer (edited 02-01-2001).]
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opusdog
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Posted: 1998-Sep-29 23:43
CharlieW, In looking at your page, is it certain that all seeking it will be familiar with the EIFS term, or is it jargon more used by tradesmen? Would it help to spell out Exterior Insulation Finish Systems (EIFS) in the page title text and Keywords and Titles Metatags to allow a search for those words/phrase in addition to the EIFS?
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JuniorHarris
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Posted: 2001-Feb-01 09:30
¡[This message has been edited by JuniorHarris (edited 09-07-2001).]
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CharlieW
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Posted: 1998-Sep-30 00:41
Thanks Opusdog,
but it's kinda like having some disease with a long name that no one's ever heard of. The folks that have it know what it is and refer to it by some abreviation.
That's kind of like my site. It's for the people who have the "disease" already.
I really appreciate the reply though. I've learned more from this site than I ever imagined I needed to know. And in a very short time. Maybe I can return the favor one day.
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