Keensurfer
Joined: Nov 05, 1999
# Posts: 885
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Posted: 2003-Dec-16 18:27
It doesn't look like Google, Inktomi, or their own results. It's very odd stuff. Where are the results coming from?
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Keensurfer
Joined: Nov 05, 1999
# Posts: 885
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Posted: 2003-Dec-16 20:13
Actually looks like some really strange reordering of Inktomi results. What do you think?
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ferret77
Joined: May 31, 2002
# Posts: 354
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Posted: 2003-Dec-16 22:40
looks identical to google from here in New York , but I read that yahoo is giving people outside the us differnt results
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Keensurfer
Joined: Nov 05, 1999
# Posts: 885
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Posted: 2003-Dec-16 23:38
Interesting...at home (South Florida) I see the Google ordered results...at work with a different IP I see scrambled Inktomi results (relevancy is quite unimpressive)...maybe they are testing. Seems like it needs some tweaking to get it right. The old Yahoo directory results were better. It's interesting that the ordering of the new results is quite different than you get on a pure inktomi search.
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SEOK
Joined: Jul 24, 2002
# Posts: 288
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Posted: 2003-Dec-16 23:59
I am getting the new results on my box too. I am actually quite impressed with the results. My site, as well as what I would consider my quality competitors all have prominent listings; unlike google who displays forum entries for competitive keywords...
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ferret77
Joined: May 31, 2002
# Posts: 354
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Posted: 2003-Dec-17 00:38
I was really hoping they would switch to the pure inkotomi results, but any switch is better then google at this point except teoma
seok where are you located, adn do the results look anything like the pure ink results
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Keensurfer
Joined: Nov 05, 1999
# Posts: 885
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Posted: 2003-Dec-17 01:25
I was hoping for pure Inktomi as well. In the categories that I follow a lot of outdated web sites are being returned quite high.
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jbgilbert
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
# Posts: 321
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Posted: 2003-Dec-17 05:05
I've sent this comment to Yahoo, but I'm hoping they read it here!!!
If they are going to leave Google and expect to once again actually compete as a SE,
THEY NEED TO:
1) Provide a decent and reliable place for us to FREE submit URLs! (PositionTech and the others have no place in this process). Used to we could submit to Inktomi in a round-about way through MSN's bCentral, but that no longer works.
2) They can charge for their directory, but they should not expect to be able to charge for every URL submitted. They claim you can submit a non commercial site for free, but in the past 6 months I've submitted several with NO SUCCESS.
3) They need to decide what role each of the SE's they bought will play and be open about their plans -- they may not know it yet, but people are not looking for another IRS attitude SE.
4) They need to get their crawlers working better. Inktomi does not crawl that well and indexes even slower. AllTheWeb crawls like crazy, but NEVER seems to index. From what I can see, neither of these products do a very good job of crawling and indexing.
to regain
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ferret77
Joined: May 31, 2002
# Posts: 354
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Posted: 2003-Dec-18 15:06
is there always some minor differences between google and yahoo's results
or are they usually exactly the same?
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davaddavad
Joined: Aug 02, 2001
# Posts: 928
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Posted: 2003-Dec-18 16:33
Minor differences but mostly the same usually.
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Bestbet
Joined: Aug 03, 2002
# Posts: 24
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Posted: 2004-Jan-20 21:46
"
It's interesting that the ordering of the new results is quite different than you get on a pure inktomi search."
What are you defining as a pure inktomi search? Where do you get the inktomi search results?
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lonebuffs
Joined: Jul 16, 2002
# Posts: 47
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Posted: 2004-Jan-20 22:04
I think for pure Inktomi results, you have to do an advanced search at MSN. I also use http://search.positiontech.com/InktomiSearch/PositionTechSearch.jsp but I'm not sure if that differs from "pure" inktomi search or not... I wouldn't think so
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yellowwing
Joined: May 21, 2002
# Posts: 2526
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Posted: 2004-Feb-09 20:20
Up here in Winnipeg Canada I'm seeing a fresh green crop of Inktomi! Yahoo is displaying the web pages results by default.
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yellowwing
Joined: May 21, 2002
# Posts: 2526
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Posted: 2004-Feb-09 21:09
...and 30 minutes later its back to Google results.
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thejenn
Joined: Aug 08, 2001
# Posts: 9196
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Posted: 2004-Feb-09 22:21
I'm getting a mix here. Some searches are matching Google perfectly, others are matching Ink perfectly, still others look to be an entirely different mix...perhaps Ink remixed with a Yahoo specific algo? Dunno yet...
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MakeMeTop
Joined: Jul 05, 2000
# Posts: 1714
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Posted: 2004-Feb-10 09:31
Still (and always has been) Google for me. Seeing I'm meant to be able to comment on all this, it would be nice if I could have a glimpse of what others are seeing - hint -
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