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lynnc
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Posted: 07/21/2006 10:10 am
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Hello,

I am working on a site that has been online for multiple years. It used to have results in Yahoo! prior to some major changes in the link structure of the site. The link structure used to be...

/Nav.aspx/Page=/PageManager/Default.aspx/PageID=12345

they now end in...

/Page_Name.htm

Results in Google bounced back but they have not bounced back in Yahoo! or MSN for that matter.

I recently realized he had been requesting links to his site using a third level domain that pointed to his homepage. Now, Google and Yahoo! have indexed his pages under two different URL's for every page. I'm not certain if this is part of the reason his website is continuing to experience issues in Yahoo! and could use some guidance.

I should also mention that they way the old pages were structured... they return 400's now and there doesn't seem to be a way to redirect properly. So, Yahoo! and Google both have massive amounts of pages returning 400's in their index for this site.

How does Yahoo! treat third level domains? Thanks!



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Posted: 07/21/2006 11:21 am
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Old pages that have been removed should have 301 Permanent Redirects set up so that when someone (or a search engine bot) requests an old URL they're redirected to the new correct URL.

there doesn't seem to be a way to redirect properly

You should be able to set up the 301s in your .htaccess file.

Figure out which pages are giving the most 404 errors and redirect those first; then look to see if those pages have links going to them and get those links changed.



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Posted: 07/21/2006 11:25 am
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That's the problem though... the pages are not returning 404's. They are returning 400's. I'm being told by our programmers that we can't redirect because the pages return 400's.



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Posted: 07/21/2006 01:21 pm
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Still, it seems to me that setting up a 301 Permanent Redirect should redirect the URL to another URL when it's requested, which would override the 400 error. But that may not be the case.

A 400 error is actually a request that the server couldn't handle, and those 400s can be fixed. Here are a few links that might help out, as I don't know the cause of your particular 400s:

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[link]

I'm guessing that there might be a space in the URLs and that can be fixed by changing the Apache setup.




lynnc
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Posted: 08/14/2006 05:06 pm
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Unfortunately, the way that the links are structured there is no way for us to redirect. I used to work for the design and hosting company that hosted this old site. The way their sites were structured and built was quite odd and not search engine friendly. It made it impossible to redirect any content pages. Any other ideas?!?! Let me know! Thanks so much for your comments and help!



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Posted: 08/15/2006 05:40 am
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try creating a custom 400 page that has a link to the relevant/home page



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Posted: 08/17/2006 11:34 am
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How does Yahoo! treat third level domains?


I dont know how Y! treats 3rd level, but I have some of the old-style .US domains that go out to the 4th level (business.city.state.us) which is how they used to be issued. They still show up in Google, but have totally dropped out of Yahoo - even though I have some of them listed in the Yahoo directory!

Yahoo probably treats the 4th level as spam now, even though it was issued as a legitimate domain.



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